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  1. Zugzwang
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    12 Jan '21 20:102 edits
    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/12/school-threatens-legal-action-muslim-girl-siham-hamud-skirt-too-long

    "School threatens legal action after Muslim girl told skirt is ‘too long’
    Siham Hamud, 12, refused to wear shorter skirt and now parents
    face court over unauthorised absences"

    "The parents of a Muslim girl who was sent home from school for wearing a
    skirt that was deemed “too long” are being threatened with legal action.

    Siham Hamud, 12, described being bullied for her religious beliefs after
    being sent home every day in December from Uxbridge high school
    in Hillingdon, west London, and told to only come back when she
    wore a shorter skirt.

    She had been wearing an ankle-length skirt to school for years, but said she
    was shocked when teachers last month told her the attire was incorrect uniform."

    "However, the Siham’s father, Idris Hamud, 55, said short skirts
    contravene the family’s religious beliefs and his daughter had refused
    to attend school. The school has now threatened him and his wife,
    Salma Yusuf, 44, with legal action over their daughter’s alleged
    unauthorised absences.

    Siham, who is now studying from home due to Covid lockdown
    restrictions, described feeling bullied for her beliefs."

    "A new school rule about the length of skirts was introduced two
    years ago, stating shorter branded skirts had to be worn.
    But the family claim they only recently became aware of this change,
    and Siham continued wearing her longer skirt, unaware she was
    breaking any rules, until she was spoken to by teachers on 1 December."

    "Siham’s older sisters, Sumayyah, 19, and Ilham, 17, both wore
    longer skirts to school without issue."

    Hamud, an athletics coach, said his daughter was being denied
    an education because of her religious beliefs.

    “All Siham wants to do is to wear a skirt which is a few centimetres
    longer than her classmates, and I don’t know why the school has
    such a problem with this. She is sent home to change into a shorter
    skirt then return to school later that day – but she isn’t going to
    change her beliefs in an hour.

    “The school is threatening to take legal action against me, but I’m not forcing
    her to wear a longer skirt – it’s her faith and her decision to make.
    She used to love school, but now she goes to school crying because
    of this – it’s heartbreaking.”"

    Her skirt's length is irrelevant to any educational objective.
    (If she wished to wear a longer skirt to conceal an ugly scar on her leg, would that be acceptable?)
    This seems to be another case of the unnecessary policing of a black Muslim girl.
  2. Subscribershavixmir
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    13 Jan '21 05:28
    There’s so much “wrong” in that story I wouldn’t know where to begin:
    - school uniforms in 2021?
    - girls have to wear skirts?
    - they shortened the length of skirts?
    - refusing to go to school over clothing?
    - a lawsuit?
    - religious beliefs about clothing?
    - a God interested in what length of skirt is appropriate attire?

    Good grief.
  3. Zugzwang
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    14 Jan '21 04:12
    @shavixmir said
    There’s so much “wrong” in that story I wouldn’t know where to begin:
    - school uniforms in 2021?
    - girls have to wear skirts?
    - they shortened the length of skirts?
    - refusing to go to school over clothing?
    - a lawsuit?
    - religious beliefs about clothing?
    - a God interested in what length of skirt is appropriate attire?

    Good grief.
    It seems more common for school authorities to punish a girl because her skirt's too short.

    "...refusing to go to school over clothing?"
    --Shavixmir

    A few strong women players have boycotted chess tournaments in predominantly Muslim
    societies because they refused to comply with requirements to wear head scarves.
  4. SubscriberEarl of Trumps
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    14 Jan '21 04:341 edit
    This bullying angers the crap out of me.

    The PC dress-code nazis are essentially saying, "You must dress to please US!!!"

    The administrators need a good dope-slap
  5. Subscribershavixmir
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    14 Jan '21 04:36
    @duchess64 said
    It seems more common for school authorities to punish a girl because her skirt's too short.

    "...refusing to go to school over clothing?"
    --Shavixmir

    A few strong women players have boycotted chess tournaments in predominantly Muslim
    societies because they refused to comply with requirements to wear head scarves.
    A dress code in a chess match. Whatever next?
  6. Zugzwang
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    20 Jan '21 05:38
    https://www.politico.eu/article/berlin-headscarf-ban-is-illegal-court-rules-muslim-religion-discrimination/

    "Berlin headscarf ban is illegal, court rules
    Muslim woman was turned down for a job in a Berlin school in 2017
    because she was not prepared to take off her headscarf."

    "A German court ruled that a ban on teachers wearing headscarves in schools in Berlin is unconstitutional.
    The Federal Labor Court was ruling in a case brought by a Muslim woman who was turned
    down for a job in a Berlin school in 2017 because she was not prepared to take off her headscarf."

    "Berlin’s ruling coalition of the Socialists, Greens and Left is divided on the issue."
  7. Standard memberDeepThought
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    @duchess64 said
    https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/12/school-threatens-legal-action-muslim-girl-siham-hamud-skirt-too-long

    "School threatens legal action after Muslim girl told skirt is ‘too long’
    Siham Hamud, 12, refused to wear shorter skirt and now parents
    face court over unauthorised absences"

    "The parents of a Muslim girl who was sent home from school for wearing ...[text shortened]... t be acceptable?)
    This seems to be another case of the unnecessary policing of a black Muslim girl.
    Shorter branded skirts - is the actual issue that she's not wearing clothing made by a particular manufacturer? Is there some school sponsorship deal, where the school rules have been adjusted to suit a particular provider?
  8. Zugzwang
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    20 Jan '21 08:00
    @deepthought said
    Shorter branded skirts - is the actual issue that she's not wearing clothing made by a particular manufacturer? Is there some school sponsorship deal, where the school rules have been adjusted to suit a particular provider?
    I don't know the specific details.

    https://www.theguardian.com/education/mortarboard/2013/oct/03/why-wear-school-uniform

    "Although wearing a school uniform is less expensive than buying a whole wardrobe of
    outfits, uniform can still be pricey. Many schools have a specific supplier, and wearing cheaper
    alternatives can result in punishment if the black skirt you’re wearing isn’t exactly the right black skirt.
    Finding uniform that fits you, especially if you’re limited to one shop, can also be a struggle."
  9. Subscribermedullah
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    20 Jan '21 09:56
    @Earl-of-Trumps

    Totally agree. Unless the skirt is so long that she could trip over it and injure herself I don't see why they are trying to enforce this BS.

    When I went to school (more years ago that i care to admit to) in England the girls seemed to go for either just abouve the knee, just below, or kind of half way down the shin.
  10. YNWA
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    20 Jan '21 10:48
    @medullah said
    @Earl-of-Trumps

    Totally agree. Unless the skirt is so long that she could trip over it and injure herself I don't see why they are trying to enforce this BS.

    When I went to school (more years ago that i care to admit to) in England the girls seemed to go for either just abouve the knee, just below, or kind of half way down the shin.
    The risk of injury line has been used to deal with noncompliance with uniform since I was a kid. To be honest I think the prevalence of skirt related injuries is probably low.
  11. Subscribermedullah
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    20 Jan '21 11:03
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    I think that you're right
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