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  1. 15 Jun '13 21:14 / 3 edits
    OK bad pun, but a serious subject.

    Here is a rather outspoken criticism of Red Hot Pawn (yes us)

    Unfortunately, the owners have allowed an out-of-control forum to ruin what otherwise might have become a worthwhile chess site.


    The public forums are dominated by a pack of abusive bullies and moderators who are intent on driving everyone else off of their private playground.


    Parents should be especially aware of allowing their children onto the site. The forums are always overflowing with graphic references to violence and sexual activity. Worse, some children have complained about predators seeking to engage them in private simulated sexual conversations.


    All in all, not a place for children, chess lovers, or decent human beings.


    Taken from compaints.com
    http://www.complaints.com/2008/may/26/_Abuse_by_www.redhotpawn.com_171904.htm


    What do you make of that? Is this site is not safe for children?

    To be honest I think it mostly wouldn't appeal to them, and they can, should not but can find plenty more shocking sites.

    But it has occurred to me that bad pun in the thread could be all too serious in a very small minority. A red hot porn user might well think it funny.

    The last 'Big' Child Pornography case I'm aware off in the UK - Operation Ore. Below's a detailed article from the BBC, published late last year -relevant partly to jimmy saville, but Operation Ore was much bigger.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20237564

    I read an economist article on it, saying there were 20,000 cases. So many it was a logistical problem for the police to prosecute them, it was going to take them 2 years. When I worked at a bank I met a guy who worked on it. Apparently the site was taking cards, that's how so many were caught.

    I sympathise with paedophile's in a way, it must be a tragic affliction to have. But it also must require very malicious cunning to act on. I suspect now they must be more advanced, using all manner of systems.

    The PRISM System developed by the US could be there worst enemy, especially if it has there phone, bank card, little things plus the net. I hope it's already looking for them.

    How should the UK respond to this type of threat? How much net surveillance is justified in general and how is it best used?

    Your thoughts?

    please don't take this thread to be to insulting to the website or its users. I really like these forums, hope it's worth discussing.
  2. 15 Jun '13 21:35
    Originally posted by e4chris
    OK bad pun, but a serious subject.

    Here is a rather outspoken criticism of Red Hot Pawn (yes us)

    [b]Unfortunately, the owners have allowed an out-of-control forum to ruin what otherwise might have become a worthwhile chess site.


    The public forums are dominated by a pack of abusive bullies and moderators who are intent on driving everyone else off ...[text shortened]... g to the website or its users. I really like these forums, hope it's worth discussing.
    affliction? pure materialism! what about personal accountability and the exercise of the faculty of conscience?
  3. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    15 Jun '13 22:09
    This is a forum for 13+ which is labelled with a warning that discussions get heated.

  4. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    15 Jun '13 22:16
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    This is a forum for 13+ which is labelled with a warning that discussions get heated.

    Stuff it, you @#$$%^&!
  5. 15 Jun '13 22:18
    Originally posted by e4chris
    OK bad pun, but a serious subject.

    Here is a rather outspoken criticism of Red Hot Pawn (yes us)

    [b]Unfortunately, the owners have allowed an out-of-control forum to ruin what otherwise might have become a worthwhile chess site.


    The public forums are dominated by a pack of abusive bullies and moderators who are intent on driving everyone else off ...[text shortened]... g to the website or its users. I really like these forums, hope it's worth discussing.
    WHAT a warped demented mind set you appear to have !
    You sympathize w/ them ?!
    Predators of children ?!
    You refer to their horrendous deeds as a "tragic afflication" ?!

    Unfriggin real !!!

    I sympathise with paedophile's in a way, it must be a tragic affliction to have-e4chris
  6. 16 Jun '13 00:42
    Originally posted by e4chris
    OK bad pun, but a serious subject.

    Here is a rather outspoken criticism of Red Hot Pawn (yes us)

    [b]Unfortunately, the owners have allowed an out-of-control forum to ruin what otherwise might have become a worthwhile chess site.


    The public forums are dominated by a pack of abusive bullies and moderators who are intent on driving everyone else off ...[text shortened]... g to the website or its users. I really like these forums, hope it's worth discussing.
    What has a very old comment about this website got to do with child pornography?
  7. Standard member empovsun
    Adepto 'er perfectu
    16 Jun '13 01:05
    what is going on here

    is this the twilight zone?
  8. 16 Jun '13 03:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    WHAT a warped demented mind set you appear to have !
    You sympathize w/ them ?!
    Predators of children ?!
    You refer to their horrendous deeds as a "tragic afflication" ?!

    Unfriggin real !!!

    I sympathise with paedophile's in a way, it must be a tragic affliction to have-[b]e4chris
    [/b]
    its not a compliment, would you rate them higher or lower then a granny robber / nasty rapist?

    besides empathy is always useful, even if you dislike / hate someone.
  9. 16 Jun '13 03:16
    Originally posted by empovsun
    what is going on here

    is this the twilight zone?
    This 'PRISM' system is just like the twilight zone, I think it will haunt people.
  10. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    16 Jun '13 03:22
    Originally posted by e4chris
    OK bad pun, but a serious subject.

    Here is a rather outspoken criticism of Red Hot Pawn (yes us)

    [b]Unfortunately, the owners have allowed an out-of-control forum to ruin what otherwise might have become a worthwhile chess site.


    The public forums are dominated by a pack of abusive bullies and moderators who are intent on driving everyone else off ...[text shortened]... g to the website or its users. I really like these forums, hope it's worth discussing.
    From the comments:

    b6eb049a, 2008-11-19, 07:29AM CST

    Yes, absolutely.

    The website gave my mother CANCER and the mods killed and raped my daughter.

    Crowley, one the handsome mods, ran away with my wife to some remote, beautiful island where Rum and Coke is considered food!

    catfoodtim, aka Fugley Mod, doesn't even brush his teeth and Phlabibit is trying to corrupt our youth with his Rock'n'Roll.

    It's unbelievable that the owners have not been outed as the Satanists that they are, using the site to 'convert' as many people as they can!


    Classic!
  11. 16 Jun '13 03:34
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    From the comments:

    b6eb049a, 2008-11-19, 07:29AM CST

    Yes, absolutely.

    The website gave my mother CANCER and the mods killed and raped my daughter.

    Crowley, one the handsome mods, ran away with my wife to some remote, beautiful island where Rum and Coke is considered food!

    catfoodtim, aka Fugley Mod, doesn't even brush his teeth a ...[text shortened]... nists that they are, using the site to 'convert' as many people as they can!


    Classic!
    I did see that one too, rather good...
  12. 16 Jun '13 03:51
    Originally posted by e4chris
    its not a compliment, would you rate them higher or lower then a granny robber / nasty rapist?

    besides empathy is always useful, even if you dislike / hate someone.
    "Empathy"? I think not.
    And as far as "hate" goes,I hate no one.
    You are speaking of predators of toddlers,etc.
    Their acts are irreparable and reprehensible to say the least.The indiduals themselves are incorrigble and dispicable in their "cunning"as you say.
    You asked me to compare. They are right up there w/ a serial killer in my book.
  13. 16 Jun '13 04:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    "Empathy"? I think not.
    And as far as "hate" goes,I hate no one.
    You are speaking of predators of toddlers,etc.
    Their acts are irreparable and reprehensible to say the least.The indiduals themselves are incorrigble and dispicable in their "cunning"as you say.
    You asked me to compare. They are right up there w/ a serial killer in my book.
    so how would you catch them?

    would PRISM be useful?
  14. 16 Jun '13 04:15
    Originally posted by e4chris
    so how would you catch them?

    would PRISM be useful?
    go ask someone in law enforcement.
    why not stick to what we are talking about ? That being " empathy". Explain why you are empathetic to child molestors.
  15. 16 Jun '13 09:04
    Originally posted by e4chris
    its not a compliment, would you rate them higher or lower then a granny robber / nasty rapist? besides empathy is always useful, even if you dislike / hate someone.
    How do you empathise with child pornographers?