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  1. 01 Mar '11 18:08
    Under Seattle’s Social Justice Program – It is geared towards combating Institutional Racism in Government. … That if a College degree is necessary for a Job, that is being racist towards Immigrants or Illegals. because most Minorities don’t have one. So Engineers, Chemists, Nurses, Doctors, with college Degrees, it is no longer necessary in Seattle. Under this new Social Justice Initiative – if you’re an employer asking that your employees be college educated they have labeled you as racist.”


    ALSO....

    Seattle’s Police Department – Prosecutors and City Police have STOPPED enforcing Traffic, Drinking while Driving, and Drug Laws, when it comes to Illegals, or Foreign Born Residents.

    They feel these laws are harsher on Minorities, including Minor crime Laws. Also they are requesting lesser charges and Jail time for Illegals, so they won’t suffer through deportation. This is the reason the City’s crime statistics have dropped dramatically since 2008.

    80 Languages are now spoken in the City of Seattle.City Attorney Peter Holmes is very happy about the new Socialist initiative, because 20% of the city is made up of Minorities, and it “harms them the most.”

    But if you are a US Citizen in Seattle – Or if you’re White, according to the City’s own website you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.


    http://leeinthemountains.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/college-degrees-are-racist/

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4560622/social-justice-in-seattle/?playlist_id=86856

    www.mynorthwest.com/category/news_chick_blog/20110123/SPD-officer%27s-view-of-Socialist-Seattle/
    www.seattle.gov/rsji/docs/090120rsjiReport.pdf
  2. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    01 Mar '11 18:10
    West coast Social Justice advocates can be pretty fanatical and creepy, definitely.
  3. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    01 Mar '11 18:29
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    [quote][b]Under Seattle’s Social Justice Program – It is geared towards combating Institutional Racism in Government. … That if a College degree is necessary for a Job, that is being racist towards Immigrants or Illegals. because most Minorities don’t have one. So Engineers, Chemists, Nurses, Doctors, with college Degrees, it is no longer n ...[text shortened]... 10123/SPD-officer%27s-view-of-Socialist-Seattle/
    www.seattle.gov/rsji/docs/090120rsjiReport.pdf[/b]
    Your first source has this for their banner:

    "Lee in the Mountains - Doing the Lord's Work by Saving the White Race"

    Your second source is Fox News.

    Need I say more?
  4. 01 Mar '11 18:38
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Your first source has this for their banner:

    "Lee in the Mountains - Doing the Lord's Work by Saving the White Race"

    Your second source is Fox News.

    Need I say more?
    And for an extra touch of nazi references they have capitalized all nouns. Guess which language also does this?
  5. 01 Mar '11 18:45
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Your first source has this for their banner:

    "Lee in the Mountains - Doing the Lord's Work by Saving the White Race"

    Your second source is Fox News.

    Need I say more?
    So, you dispute the validity of the OP ?
  6. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    01 Mar '11 18:50 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    So, you dispute the validity of the OP ?
    I won't waste my time discussing the opinions of a white supremacy group.

    Edit: Are you a fan of Lee in the Mountains?
  7. 01 Mar '11 18:52 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    I won't waste my time discussing the opinions of a white supremacy group.

    Edit: Are you a fan of Lee in the Mountains?
    So, you dispute the validity of the OP ?
    edit: never heard of him before. it was the most up to date link that i found and clicked on it.
  8. 01 Mar '11 18:53
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    So, you dispute the validity of the OP ?
    Yes I would, compare

    "So Engineers, Chemists, Nurses, Doctors, with college Degrees, it is no longer necessary in Seattle. Under this new Social Justice Initiative – if you’re an employer asking that your employees be college educated they have labeled you as racist.”

    to

    "For example, job requirements that put undue emphasison college degrees over work experience may eliminatequalified candidates of color, who face institutional
    barriers to higher education."

    (from your link to the report of the Race & Social Justice report)

    Your OP goes from 'not putting undue emphasis' to 'it is irrelevant' which crosses the line of 'reasonable amount of spin' by a couple million miles.
  9. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    02 Mar '11 01:12
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    So, you dispute the validity of the OP ?
    edit: never heard of him before. it was the most up to date link that i found and clicked on it.
    The OP is BS.

    Here's some free advice: the next time you're perusing your white supremacist sites in order to get up to speed on the daily news and they start asserting that some government policy will soon mean that grade school dropouts (colored ones anyway) will now be allowed to do brain surgery, approach such information with a grain of salt. If you want to get "up to date" info, take the subject they are talking about and google it. When you do that for the "Social Justice Initiative" your first hit is this website: http://www.kingcounty.gov/exec/equity.aspx

    The next phase of your research might be actually reading the Social Justice Initiative (which is a link on the site). I know this is boring as compared to uncritically accepting the word of neo-nazis, but if you do so you'll rather quickly discover that the assertions you have parroted are absurd. This will save you much embarrassment in the future.
  10. 02 Mar '11 01:36
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    [quote][b]Under Seattle’s Social Justice Program – It is geared towards combating Institutional Racism in Government. … That if a College degree is necessary for a Job, that is being racist towards Immigrants or Illegals. because most Minorities don’t have one. So Engineers, Chemists, Nurses, Doctors, with college Degrees, it is no longer n ...[text shortened]... 10123/SPD-officer%27s-view-of-Socialist-Seattle/
    www.seattle.gov/rsji/docs/090120rsjiReport.pdf[/b]
    Sometimes I really wonder what you are so afraid of?
  11. 02 Mar '11 01:36 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    The OP is BS.

    Here's some free advice: the next time you're perusing your white supremacist sites in order to get up to speed on the daily news and they start asserting that some government policy will soon mean that grade school dropouts (colored ones anyway) will now be allowed to do brain surgery, approach such information with a grai rtions you have parroted are absurd. This will save you much embarrassment in the future.
    embarrassed? I am not embarrassed about anything. I actually caught wind of the story on the most watched News Network in the Nation. I actually saw a Seattle cop on there complaining about the policy. And the DA defending the policy.

    As I said before ,dont kill the messenger. I admit that was a bit over the top w/ the blogger (in my fist link) saying ,"grade school dropouts will now be allowed to do brain surgery" or words to that affect.

    The facts are in there. Its racist and or discrimatory for employers to require a college education and for the police to cut a break to minorities and illegals for DUI,etc.
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    02 Mar '11 02:08
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    embarrassed? I am not embarrassed about anything. I actually caught wind of the story on the most watched News Network in the Nation. I actually saw a Seattle cop on there complaining about the policy. And the DA defending the policy.

    As I said before ,dont kill the messenger. I admit that was a bit over the top w/ the blogger (in my fist link) say ...[text shortened]... a college education and for the police to cut a break to minorities and illegals for DUI,etc.
  13. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    02 Mar '11 03:40
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    [quote][b]Under Seattle’s Social Justice Program – It is geared towards combating Institutional Racism in Government. … That if a College degree is necessary for a Job, that is being racist towards Immigrants or Illegals. because most Minorities don’t have one. So Engineers, Chemists, Nurses, Doctors, with college Degrees, it is no longer n ...[text shortened]... 10123/SPD-officer%27s-view-of-Socialist-Seattle/
    www.seattle.gov/rsji/docs/090120rsjiReport.pdf[/b]
    Hello- I live in Seattle, and I'm afraid it's not that cut and dried. The recent beatings of minorities by Seattle police have authorities taking a "kid gloves" policy regarding minorities. While this may be the offical policy, not much has really changed. Minorities are still being treated about the same as whites. As far as being labeled "racist", most people areound here "minorities included" think the race card has been overplayed in the past, and it's not having as much affect as it once had. So relax...the press tends to hype these things a bit too much.
  14. 02 Mar '11 05:39
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    embarrassed? I am not embarrassed about anything. I actually caught wind of the story on the most watched News Network in the Nation. I actually saw a Seattle cop on there complaining about the policy. And the DA defending the policy.

    As I said before ,dont kill the messenger. I admit that was a bit over the top w/ the blogger (in my fist link) say ...[text shortened]... a college education and for the police to cut a break to minorities and illegals for DUI,etc.
    Hahahahahahahaha Awesome! "If it's on Fox News, it must be true!"

    Well, that'll learn ya, or not.
  15. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    02 Mar '11 05:51
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    So Engineers, Chemists, Nurses, Doctors, with college Degrees, it is no longer necessary in Seattle.
    Unless you can substantiate this, it seems that your OP was false. You've got form in this area, utherpendragon. Why do you do it? And it was right towards the beginning of your OP too, so you can't claim it was an oversight. You must have read it before you clicked Post. Sounds like you're trying to spread lies. Get rid of the question mark over your integrity: just give us the name of some medical doctors with no degrees in Seattle.