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  1. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    04 Mar '17 15:42
    Looks like they went badly for the Loyalists and that pro-unification parties now have one more seat then the traditional ruling parties: the DUP and UUP.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2017/mar/03/northern-ireland-assembly-election-latest-results

    It seems to me that the most logical government for the ACLE ("artificially created Loyalist entity" would be one where nationalist Sinn Fein and the SDLP join with Alliance and the smaller liberal parties (which are officially "neutral" on unification); between them they have 50 of the 90 seats. It seems that such an actual coalition of the majority (even though the parties are in general agreement on non-unification issues) is not allowed under Good Friday, however.

    So the most likely result because of those restrictions are a failure of talks between the Loyalist wing and Nationalists and the re-imposition of direct UK rule.

    Most commentary seems to link these results directly to Brexit; any thought from our friends across the pond on that analysis? Is Brexit likely to lead to the unification of Ireland (if the UK will allow it?).
  2. 04 Mar '17 16:45
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Looks like they went badly for the Loyalists and that pro-unification parties now have one more seat then the traditional ruling parties: the DUP and UUP.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2017/mar/03/northern-ireland-assembly-election-latest-results

    It seems to me that the most logical government for the ACLE ("artificially created Lo ...[text shortened]... hat analysis? Is Brexit likely to lead to the unification of Ireland (if the UK will allow it?).
    I think you mean stormont...?

    If it isn't resolved soon we will have to revert to direct rule from London.
  3. 04 Mar '17 16:47
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Looks like they went badly for the Loyalists and that pro-unification parties now have one more seat then the traditional ruling parties: the DUP and UUP.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2017/mar/03/northern-ireland-assembly-election-latest-results

    It seems to me that the most logical government for the ACLE ("artificially created Lo ...[text shortened]... hat analysis? Is Brexit likely to lead to the unification of Ireland (if the UK will allow it?).
    It's not whether the UK will allow it. Northern Ireland remains strongly unionist. This is not reflected in the vote, as it only had 65 percent turnout. Unionist voters have gotten arrogant.
  4. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    04 Mar '17 17:23
    I actually think the divide between Catholics and protestants (except on the fringes) is, politically speaking, getting smaller.

    So, people are starting to listen to what the political parties have on offer, rather than vote along pure secterian divides.
  5. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    04 Mar '17 17:42
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    I think you mean stormont...?

    If it isn't resolved soon we will have to revert to direct rule from London.
    OOOPS! Didn't have my morning coffee ....................................
  6. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    04 Mar '17 17:44 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    It's not whether the UK will allow it. Northern Ireland remains strongly unionist. This is not reflected in the vote, as it only had 65 percent turnout. Unionist voters have gotten arrogant.
    That was the highest turnout in a decade and 10% more than the last assembly elections. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2017/mar/03/northern-ireland-assembly-election-latest-results

    It's odd that a majority of such a "strongly Unionist" political entity's voters cast their ballots for parties that are officially in favor of Irish unification or officially neutral regarding it.
  7. 04 Mar '17 21:01
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    That was the highest turnout in a decade and 10% more than the last assembly elections. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2017/mar/03/northern-ireland-assembly-election-latest-results

    It's odd that a majority of such a "strongly Unionist" political entity's voters cast their ballots for parties that are officially in favor of Irish unification or officially neutral regarding it.
    The unification is just not going to happen in the foreseeable future so people are now voting on actual issues rather than just voting unionist. Arlene foster deserves this for being arrogant.
  8. 04 Mar '17 21:02 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    I actually think the divide between Catholics and protestants (except on the fringes) is, politically speaking, getting smaller.

    So, people are starting to listen to what the political parties have on offer, rather than vote along pure secterian divides.
    Well yes. The DUP needs to get with the program on this issue, that they won't win by dividing people on silly issues like this in perpetuity.
  9. 04 Mar '17 21:52
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    OOOPS! Didn't have my morning coffee ....................................
    I would totally live in a city called stormfront. It sounds like something straight out of game of thrones!
  10. 04 Mar '17 21:58 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka to No1Marauder
    I would totally live in a city called stormfront. It sounds like something straight out of game of thrones!
    Ash seems ignorant of Stormfront being a notorious white racial supremacist neo-Nazi website.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)
  11. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    04 Mar '17 21:59
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    OOOPS! Didn't have my morning coffee ....................................
    Yeah right. Probably had it open in another tab eh? Subliminal man. Where's Sammy?
  12. 04 Mar '17 21:59 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Ash to No1Marauder
    I would totally live in a city called stormfront. It sounds like something straight out of game of thrones!
    Ash seems ignorant of Stormfront being a notorious white racial supremacist neo-Nazi website.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)

    P.S. Sorry for the double post. My computer screen froze after the first posting attempt.
  13. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    05 Mar '17 08:37
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Ash seems ignorant of Stormfront being a notorious white racial supremacist neo-Nazi website.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)

    P.S. Sorry for the double post. My computer screen froze after the first posting attempt.
    They're our cuddly neo-nazis.
  14. 05 Mar '17 08:51 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    They're our cuddly neo-nazis.
    Indeed, interesting site, I was reading a thread about a cat,

    My white domesticated cat just beat the ever living s*** out of the black tomcat that's been causing problems in the neighborhood by trying to steal food and humping the female cats.

    I'm proud of him!

    I guess for some people even cats can be racially profiled. crazeeeee. I wonder how they feel about ginger cats?
  15. 05 Mar '17 15:08 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Ash seems ignorant of Stormfront being a notorious white racial supremacist neo-Nazi website.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)

    P.S. Sorry for the double post. My computer screen froze after the first posting attempt.
    Ha lol. I had no idea that existed.

    Edit: apparently it has a subforum in afrikaans! They know their target market obviously.