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  1. 29 Jan '11 22:27 / 1 edit
    Jerry Springer has an interesting theory as to why liberal talk radio is a abject failure and conservative talk radio is successful. He says its because the government and culture are so saturated with liberalism, that conservatism has been relegated to a peculair oddity. In short, it attracts interest and attention much like someone swimming in a pool wearing a suit and tie.

    Jerry seems to think that liberalism has won the war and Conservatism is nothing more than a means to entertain the masses.

    Discuss!!

    http://www.theblaze.com/jerry-springer-we-are-a-liberal-country/
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    30 Jan '11 00:34
    Originally posted by whodey
    Jerry Springer has an interesting theory as to why liberal talk radio is a abject failure and conservative talk radio is successful. He says its because the government and culture are so saturated with liberalism, that conservatism has been relegated to a peculair oddity. In short, it attracts interest and attention much like someone swimming in a pool wear ...[text shortened]... ain the masses.

    Discuss!!

    http://www.theblaze.com/jerry-springer-we-are-a-liberal-country/
    Why would anyone for one second consider taking seriously anything that Jerry Springer could possibly say?

    This is a man who made a career of and virtually invented the train wreck talk show, the freak-of-the-week genre.

    HE is the person not critiquing other media?

    Now I've seen it all.

  3. 30 Jan '11 00:52 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by sh76
    Why would anyone for one second consider taking seriously anything that Jerry Springer could possibly say?

    This is a man who made a career of and virtually invented the train wreck talk show, the freak-of-the-week genre.

    HE is the person not critiquing other media?

    Now I've seen it all.

    Liberalism or progressivism, whichever term you prefer, seems to consume both politics and culture. Why just look at our friend Charley Sheen who just completed a 36 hour sex/drug party or a government who has been able to balance their books for decades. What bright spots does conservatism have to brag about of late?

    Edit: Just between you and me, I think Jerry is jealous of Charley. What a sleeze ball he is.
  4. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    30 Jan '11 01:09
    Conservative talk radio is simply the WASP equivalent of Black Entertainment Television. It's not about right wing politics, it's about ethnicity.
  5. 30 Jan '11 01:11
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Conservative talk radio is simply the WASP equivalent of Black Entertainment Television. It's not about right wing politics, it's about ethnicity.
    Why is it that the left can't match it?
  6. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    30 Jan '11 01:17
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why is it that the left can't match it?
    What do you mean? Match what? The ethnic influence on politics? Because WASPs are entrenched in political and economic power for historical reasons involving lots of theft and violence.
  7. 30 Jan '11 01:25
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    What do you mean? Match what? The ethnic influence on politics? Because WASPs are entrenched in political and economic power for historical reasons involving lots of theft and violence.
    Why is it that the right can muster success and the left cannot in terms of talk radio?
  8. 30 Jan '11 01:45
    Dispair and negativism sells better than hope.
  9. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    30 Jan '11 01:47
    Originally posted by badmoon
    Dispair and negativism sells better than hope.
    That doesn't explain why right wing talk radio did so well when the Republicans were in power.
  10. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    It's only business
    30 Jan '11 04:31
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why is it that the right can muster success and the left cannot in terms of talk radio?
    Left wingers tend to use the internet for such things i.e. Air America.
  11. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    30 Jan '11 04:55
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Left wingers tend to use the internet for such things i.e. Air America.
    Not sure if you're trying to be ironic with that, but Air America tried very hard (and failed) to break into the mainstream syndicated radio market.

    That it's been reduced to an internet radio format is not by design but by failure.
  12. 30 Jan '11 09:22
    Apparently there is a bigger market for "conservative" dogamtism than for "liberal" dogmatism. I don't think it's that hard to explain if you look at the respective parties' demographics. Who vote Democrat? Roughly speaking, the poor (who usually don't care much about politics), minorities and the educated. Republican voters are generally lower middle-class to upper class uneducated. It's not hard to see why the latter group would be more prone to dogmatic, simplistic black-and-white thinking.
  13. 30 Jan '11 16:57 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Apparently there is a bigger market for "conservative" dogamtism than for "liberal" dogmatism. I don't think it's that hard to explain if you look at the respective parties' demographics. Who vote Democrat? Roughly speaking, the poor (who usually don't care much about politics), minorities and the educated. Republican voters are generally lower middle-c the latter group would be more prone to dogmatic, simplistic black-and-white thinking.
    just keep on spewing the same lies as if they are the truth. "upper class,uneducated"?!
    I would like to meet these people KN and see how the made it.
    As I posted in another thread....


    Here is the data on education which is highly correlated with IQ:

    Not HS Grad College Grad & Post-grad
    % of Democrats 32% 15%
    % of Independents 22% 18%
    % of Republicans 19% 23%

    Here is the data on people who earn incomes over $75,000 which is also highly correlated to IQ:

    Income under $75,000 over $75,000
    % of Democrats 74% 26%
    % of Independents 72% 28%
    % of Republicans 57% 43%
  14. 30 Jan '11 17:07
    Based on data from the United States Census and renowned Cook Partisan Voting Index (CPVI), congressional districts with more educated residents are more likely to pledge their electoral votes to Republican presidential


    candidates. Conversely, congressional districts with less educated residents are more likely to pledge their electoral votes to Democratic presidential candidates.


    As demonstrated below, there is a statistically significant positive correlation between the percentage of residents in each congressional district who are high school graduates (or higher) and support by those districts for Republican presidential candidates. Comparatively, there is a statistically significant negative correlation between the percentage of residents in each congressional district who are high school graduates (or higher) and support by those districts for Democratic presidential candidates.

    As a point of probable interest, seven of the ten most educated congressional districts are partisan Republican districts and three are partisan Democratic districts. All ten of the least educated congressional districts are partisan Democratic districts. As a preliminary matter, the following is a list of these twenty congressional districts, their general geographic areas, high school (or higher) graduation percentages, and their Cook Partisan Voting Index (CPVI) values:

    Most Educated

    1. Colorado-6 (Littleton-Castle Rock, 96%, CPVI Republican +8);
    2. Minnesota-3 (Edina-Maple Grove, 94.7%, CPVI Republican +0);
    3. California-30 (Beverly Hills-Malibu, 94.2%, CPVI Democrat +18 );
    4. Washington-1 (Redmond-Edmonds, 94.1%, CPVI Democrat +9);
    5. Wisconsin-5 (Waukesha-West Bend, 93.6%, CPVI Republican +12);
    6. Minnesota-2 (Apple Valley-Lakeville, 93.6%, CPVI Republican +4);
    7. Massachusetts-10 (Cape Cod, 93.6%, CPVI Democrat +5);
    8. Georgia-6 (Dunwoody-Canton, 93.5% CPVI Republican +19);
    9. Minnesota-6 (Woodbury-St. Cloud, 93.4%, CPVI Republican +7);
    10. Illinois-13 (Downers Grove-Orland Park, 93.4%, CPVI Republican +1)

    Least Educated

    1. Texas-29 (South Houston-Baytown, 53%, CPVI Democrat +8);
    2. California-34 (East Los Angeles, 54.4%, CPVI Democrat +22);
    3. California-20 (Fresno-Lamont, 55.2%, CPVI Democrat +5);


    4. California-47 (Garden Grove-Santa Ana, 55.8%, CPVI Democrat +4);
    5. New York-16 (Bronx, 58.5%, CPVI Democrat +41);
    6. California-31 (Northeast Los Angeles-Hollywood, 59.2%, CPVI Democrat +29);
    7. Illinois-4 (Chicago-Cicero, 61.7%, CPVI Democrat +32);
    8. Arizona-4 (Phoenix-Guadalupe, 63.6%, CPVI Democrat +13);
    9. Texas-15 (Corpus Christie-McAllen, 64.7%, CPVI Democrat +3);
    10. Texas-28 (Laredo-San Antonio, 65%, CPVI Democrat +0).
  15. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    30 Jan '11 17:10
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    just keep on spewing the same lies as if they are the truth. "upper class,uneducated"?!
    I would like to meet these people KN and see how the made it.
    As I posted in another thread....


    Here is the data on education which is highly correlated with IQ:

    [b]Not HS Grad College Grad & Post-grad

    % of Democrats 32% 15%
    % of Independents 2 ...[text shortened]... over $75,000[/b]
    % of Democrats 74% 26%
    % of Independents 72% 28%
    % of Republicans 57% 43%[/b]
    54% of NPR's listeners are college grads, while 33% of Rush's audience are. Further, 72% of Limbaugh's audience is male and 80% describe themselves as conservative. http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1102/limbaugh-audience-conservative-men

    So rather uneducated, right wing males listen to a rather uneducated right wing male.