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    21 Dec '18 03:011 edit
    Excellent summary of what the Mueller investigation has uncovered.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/12/16/mueller-exposes-putins-hold-over-trump/?fbclid=IwAR34MR3YJti3OHvw7Ed4HAeWeRDxf8ffuqhjcJfQ-_IFMR7fGbGbNmsWc2Q
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    21 Dec '18 03:26
    @phranny said
    Excellent summary of what the Mueller investigation has uncovered.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/12/16/mueller-exposes-putins-hold-over-trump/?fbclid=IwAR34MR3YJti3OHvw7Ed4HAeWeRDxf8ffuqhjcJfQ-_IFMR7fGbGbNmsWc2Q
    He wanted to build a hotel in Russia and that is your nefarious evil plot? Sheeesh! Get a life.
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    21 Dec '18 21:03
    @metal-brain said
    He wanted to build a hotel in Russia and that is your nefarious evil plot? Sheeesh! Get a life.
    You are very naive. The problem wasn't the idea of building a hotel in Moscow. The problem was him denying it ever was planned BECAUSE a bank under US sanctions was going to bankroll it to the tune of several hundred million dollars.

    THAT is the problem. Deny deny deny and it only stopped when it appeared it would look bad on Trumps campaign trail.
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    @sonhouse said
    You are very naive. The problem wasn't the idea of building a hotel in Moscow. The problem was him denying it ever was planned BECAUSE a bank under US sanctions was going to bankroll it to the tune of several hundred million dollars.

    THAT is the problem. Deny deny deny and it only stopped when it appeared it would look bad on Trumps campaign trail.
    Exactly, the only thing worse than trying to build an evil hotel is trying to deny that you ever wanted to build the hotel in the first place.

    That evil hotel alone cost Hillary the election as Putin rigged everything.

    How can people be soooo stupid not to see all this?

    What about the whores and the taxes though? Where is that report?
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    21 Dec '18 22:191 edit
    @whodey said
    Exactly, the only thing worse than trying to build an evil hotel is trying to deny that you ever wanted to build the hotel in the first place.

    That evil hotel alone cost Hillary the election as Putin rigged everything.

    How can people be soooo stupid not to see all this?

    What about the whores and the taxes though? Where is that report?
    So your line of reasoning.
    Any number of factors, a large number at that, have contributed to Trump being in the White House today.

    Since we can not pin it down to one specific factor, we must give him a pass.

    That's why politics exists.
    That's why there are investigations.
    And sometimes there has to be one line of investigation that leads to an indictment.
    That can be called a witch hunt. So be it.

    The legitimacy of this president is in question. And under investigation !!

    The fact that there are multiple reasons to turf this clown does not constitute a reason to keep him.

    The investigation continues.
    Because your country needs it.
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    21 Dec '18 22:25
    Apparently not HIS country. They are frothing at the mouth T supporters and don't care a whit what he has done, is doing and will be doing in the future since he is their god, their Haile Silassie, so there will be a new religion, Trumpasterianism.

    The founding constitution of their faith: Fuk over whomever you want whenever you want, embrace the Trump, We worship thee oh my god of money.
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    21 Dec '18 23:22
    I have to agree, I don't see how this revelation could blackmail a man who called Mexican immigrants rapists, called for a ban on Muslims, talked about his penis during a live presidential debate, promoted torture of suspected terrorists and killing their families, said he'd pay legal fees of anyone who attacks his hecklers....and the pussy grab video.

    Trump said 9 things a week that would obliterate anyone else's career, and still won. A hotel would've made no difference.
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    ...that was strange.

    Nap time.
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    This is pretty funny when you think about it:

    They literally are suggesting that Pres. Trump decided to remove himself from running his business for 4 to 8 years during what is likely the last decade of his working life in order to....

    Become President.

    Just for a new deal in Russia.

    ... And it had to be Russia, guys. There were no other options. No other plan could possibly work to make Pres. Trump wealthier other than a building in Russia.

    ... So, in order to ingratiate himself to Russia, he has dedicated himself to becoming President of the United States and relaxing certain policies. Nevermind that he would then have to run a country for half a decade or more, the building makes it all worthwhile.

    You really gotta wanna believe this to believe it.
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    @philokalia said
    This is pretty funny when you think about it:

    They literally are suggesting that Pres. Trump decided to remove himself from running his business for 4 to 8 years during what is likely the last decade of his working life in order to....

    Become President.

    Just for a new deal in Russia.

    ... And it had to be Russia, guys. There were no other options. No ...[text shortened]... e building makes it all worthwhile.[/i]

    You really gotta wanna believe this to believe it.
    “Nevermind that he would then get to run a big-a$$ed country for half a decade or more, the building makes it all worthwhile. ”

    Fixed.
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    22 Dec '18 09:11
    @sonhouse said
    You are very naive. The problem wasn't the idea of building a hotel in Moscow. The problem was him denying it ever was planned BECAUSE a bank under US sanctions was going to bankroll it to the tune of several hundred million dollars.

    THAT is the problem. Deny deny deny and it only stopped when it appeared it would look bad on Trumps campaign trail.
    "a bank under US sanctions was going to bankroll it to the tune of several hundred million dollars."

    What is your source of information?
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    @philokalia said
    This is pretty funny when you think about it:

    They literally are suggesting that Pres. Trump decided to remove himself from running his business for 4 to 8 years during what is likely the last decade of his working life in order to....

    Become President.

    Just for a new deal in Russia.

    ... And it had to be Russia, guys. There were no other options. No ...[text shortened]... e building makes it all worthwhile.[/i]

    You really gotta wanna believe this to believe it.
    Who is saying Trump became president "just for a new deal in Russia"?
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    27 Dec '18 17:47
    @sonhouse plus part of the deal was that Putin would be given ownership of an apartment worth 50 million. This was going on while he was campaigning and into his term of office. Not good.
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