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  1. 06 Sep '17 02:47 / 3 edits
    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/08/danger-white-american-liberal-170817080000726.html

    "The danger of the white American liberal.
    What a team of 10-year-olds building a robot can teach us about sexism and racism in the US."
    --John Metta

    "John Metta has Bachelor's degrees in geology and anthropology and
    Master's degrees in geography and ecological engineering.
    The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not
    necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's editorial policy."

    "In four classes over three years, that gender acculturation would play
    out so many times one could think it staged. If two or more boys were
    together, they would argue over who was right. It was as if every boy
    lived in his own American Cassandra myth, sure that he held the truth,
    and ready to fight until he was victorious, despite the collateral damage.

    Girls, by contrast, would most often just solve the problem. It was common
    to have girls suggest they try another person's design and then try theirs
    - a tactic I thought was based on confidence in the other's failure until
    (with remarkable slowness) I recognised that it was actually an efficient
    way to avoid an argument by giving another person voice, while simultaneously
    testing all solutions to find the best.

    At their heart, science and engineering are not about being right, but about
    solving problems. It looked to me as though girls obviously had the better
    strategy for solving problems. The boy's core competency seemed to be fighting."

    "During my anthropology research over three years, nearly all eighth-grade girls
    I interviewed indicated they were not good at science and mathematics -
    even those planning to choose it as a career. Those girls decided they
    would simply have to work harder or, in the words of one heartbreaking
    response, "maybe not be as good, but still do my best".

    By contrast, most boys thought they were good at maths and science.
    Even more to the point, most boys thought that girls were not as good
    as boys at maths and science.

    Let this sink in: By the age of 10, the US has successfully conditioned her boys
    to assume that girls can't do maths and science, at least not as well as they can."

    "In the US, he who argues loudest and longest reigns victorious, regardless of the collateral damage."
    --John Metta
  2. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    06 Sep '17 09:04
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/08/danger-white-american-liberal-170817080000726.html

    "The danger of the white American liberal.
    What a team of 10-year-olds building a robot can teach us about sexism and racism in the US."
    --John Metta

    "John Metta has Bachelor's degrees in geology and anthropology and
    Master's degrees in geograph ...[text shortened]... gues loudest and longest reigns victorious, regardless of the collateral damage."
    --John Metta
    Girls, by contrast, would most often just solve the problem.



    Since you're clearly one of the "girls who would just solve the problem" Your solution to this problem is?
  3. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    06 Sep '17 09:40
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Girls, by contrast, would most often just solve the problem.



    Since you're clearly one of the "girls who would just solve the problem" Your solution to this problem is?
    Your combative response is clearly from one of the boys.
  4. 06 Sep '17 09:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @mchill
    Girls, by contrast, would most often just solve the problem.



    Since you're clearly one of the "girls who would just solve the problem" Your solution to this problem is?
    Kill all white males?

    I say they create a race of lesbian Amazon women who enslave males to use them as slave labor and only as sperm donors..
  5. 06 Sep '17 09:49
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    Your combative response is clearly from one of the boys.
    You should have no problem then.
  6. 06 Sep '17 10:06
    Originally posted by @finnegan
    Your combative response is clearly from one of the boys.
    Not really. He again allows his personal feelings towards her to color his reaction. It is a combative response, sure, meant to attack her for daring to only bring a problem into attention an not offer several solutions too, all in the opening post of the debate. It is indicative of his failure and weakness as an individual.

    I don't see sexism and/or a mob mentality in him. Just a petty individual attacking a valid point because he has a grudge against the one who made it.
  7. 06 Sep '17 11:32
    Originally posted by @zahlanzi
    Not really. He again allows his personal feelings towards her to color his reaction. It is a combative response, sure, meant to attack her for daring to only bring a problem into attention an not offer several solutions too, all in the opening post of the debate. It is indicative of his failure and weakness as an individual.

    I don't see sexism and/or a ...[text shortened]... a petty individual attacking a valid point because he has a grudge against the one who made it.
    He certainly lacks the superior intellect to be a Progressive Democrat.
  8. 06 Sep '17 15:01
    Originally posted by @whodey
    He certainly lacks the superior intellect to be a Progressive Democrat.
    Like i said, it's easier to deal with your incoherent and irrelevant posts once one reminds oneself that you are dumb.

    just so we're clear, by "deal" i mean ignore.
  9. 06 Sep '17 19:52
    Originally posted by @zahlanzi
    Like i said, it's easier to deal with your incoherent and irrelevant posts once one reminds oneself that you are dumb.

    just so we're clear, by "deal" i mean ignore.
    But how is this ignoring?
  10. 06 Sep '17 20:28 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/08/danger-white-american-liberal-170817080000726.html

    "The danger of the white American liberal.
    What a team of 10-year-olds building a robot can teach us about sexism and racism in the US."
    --John Metta

    "John Metta has Bachelor's degrees in geology and anthropology and
    Master's degrees in geograph ...[text shortened]... gues loudest and longest reigns victorious, regardless of the collateral damage."
    --John Metta
    ""In the US, he who argues loudest and longest reigns victorious, regardless of the collateral damage."
    --John Metta

    Donald Trump's electoral victory is an example of the success of the tireless American pathological liar.

    John Metta's article is based upon his experiences of teaching some American students.
    One should not assume that ethnocentric American cultural norms must be universal.

    Not all cultures are as dismissive as Americans' of females attempting to excel in mathematics and science.
    Visiting an American university's class in electrical engineering, a white American woman told
    me that she noticed that only a small minority of its students were women, who were all Asian.
    Chinese girls, for instance, don't tend to grow up with as much 'math anxiety' that most
    American girls (white, black, Latina) do. I would not be surprised if ethnic Chinese girls
    scored higher on average in mathematics than white boys of the same ages in the USA.
    (So would white males like to admit being 'biologically inferior' to Chinese females?)

    In the USSR, women who pursued careers in mathematics, 'hard' sciences, or engineering
    were more accepted (less treated like 'freaks' as by American men) than in the USA.

    The American who writes the following article seems unable to write 'USSR', preferring to
    use 'Soviet Russia' as a synonym. This is imprecise because 'Soviet Russia' also could
    be regarded as a synonym for the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR).

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/soviet-russia-had-a-better-record-of-training-women-in-stem-than-america-does-today-180948141/

    "Soviet Russia Had a Better Record of Training Women in STEM Than America Does Today"
    --Rose Eveluth (12 December 2013)

    "The Soviets did beat the Americans at one thing: women in science and engineering.
    Between 1962 and 1964, 40 percent of the chemistry PhD's awarded in Soviet Russia went to women.
    At that same time in the United States, that number was a measly five percent."

    "Analysis of pedagogical journals suggests that girls’ quest for advancement in the 1960s
    was aided by the USSR’s standard school curriculum, which privileged the study of math
    and the hard sciences. There are also hints that girls benefited from generalized efforts
    by science and math educators to identify and mentor talented students as well as to
    improve the overall quality of instruction in those fields. As far as influences beyond the
    school room, sociological studies (particularly those conducted by Shubkin’s group in
    Novosibirsk) offer support for the notion that parents played key roles in shaping daughters’ aspirations.
    But those results also suggest that girls’ ideas about occupational prestige both reflected
    contemporary stereotypes about ‘women’s work’ and offered up challenges to male domination
    in science and technology fields."
    --Roshanna Sylvester

    Some women who excelled in mathematics at their Soviet schools have said that it
    was natural that they should strive to do so because becoming known for success in
    mathematics was a good way to become more admired and respected by everyone else.
    Indeed, it was one way for girls to impress and become more attractive to boys.

    A divorced Russian emigre woman (an electrical engineer) told me that many Western
    men seem too insecure or intimidated to go out with her once they discover her profession.
    So she has decided to hint initially that she's a secretary in order to reassure these Western men.
    If the relationship continues, then she eventually intends to reveal the truth to the man.
  11. 06 Sep '17 21:49
    Originally posted by @zahlanzi to Finnegan or Mchill
    Not really. He again allows his personal feelings towards her to color his reaction. It is a combative response, sure, meant to attack her for daring to only bring a problem into attention an not offer several solutions too, all in the opening post of the debate. It is indicative of his failure and weakness as an individual.

    I don' ...[text shortened]... a petty individual attacking a valid point because he has a grudge against the one who made it.
    "I don't see sexism and/or a mob mentality in him [Mchill]."
    --Zahlanzi

    As a man in a male-dominated public space, Zahlanzi's not in a position of being most perceptive of sexism.
    Zahlanzi also seems willfully blind to Mchill's long record of lying racist trolling.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/16/online-sexism-social-media-debate-abuse

    "Online sexism is so out of control that we can no longer ignore it"
    --Yvette Cooper (16 December 2015)

    "The comedian Kate Smurthwaite received 2,000 abusive tweets for objecting when a
    men’s rights activist called her “darling” in a TV debate. Some called her “bitch”, “slut”,
    “harpy”; some were explicit threats of violence and rape."

    "But it’s not just public figures. I’ve heard stories of teenagers who have stopped going
    into college, women who have withdrawn from social media or been forced to change
    their work after being bombarded with online attacks."

    "The internet has to be a way to speak truth to power and to hold the powerful to account – not
    a way for the powerful or the abusive to silence the truth. We need to be able to express
    anger, disagreement or contempt in an argument – and it’s really important in a democracy
    for those in power to see the strength of feeling about decisions they take.
    But, just as we would on the streets, in the pub or at work, we have to challenge misogyny, racism,
    homophobia and intimidation or threats against others that are designed to silence debate."

    "Each time, campaigning women challenged and changed culture. We need to do the
    same again now so women are not silenced on the new streets of social media, so no
    one is drowned out by bullying and abuse."

    This forum--dominated by white men--is full of bullying and abuse attempting to silence
    the few voices whom they find threatening for daring to challenge their racism and sexism.
  12. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    06 Sep '17 22:31
    Originally posted by @duchess64
    "I don't see sexism and/or a mob mentality in him [Mchill]."
    --Zahlanzi

    As a man in a male-dominated public space, Zahlanzi's not in a position of being most perceptive of sexism.
    Zahlanzi also seems willfully blind to Mchill's long record of lying racist trolling.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/16/online-sexism-social-media-d ...[text shortened]... ence
    the few voices whom they find threatening for daring to challenge their racism and sexism.
    Yeah, the one I got once was 'harpy'. I must have LOL'ed about that the rest of that day. I forget who said it, maybe I should have thanked him for the humor break.
  13. 07 Sep '17 00:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Yeah, the one I got once was 'harpy'. I must have LOL'ed about that the rest of that day.
    I forget who said it, maybe I should have thanked him for the humor break.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy

    "The Gamergate controversy concerns issues of sexism and progressivism in video game culture,
    stemming from a harassment campaign conducted primarily through the use of the hashtag #GamerGate. ...
    Beginning in August 2014, supporters of the Gamergate movement targeted several women
    in the video game industry, including game developers Zoë Quinn and Brianna Wu, as
    well as feminist media critic Anita Sarkeesian."

    "The controversy has been described as a manifestation of a culture war over cultural
    diversification, artistic recognition, and social criticism in video games, and over the
    social identity of gamers. Many supporters of Gamergate oppose what they view as the
    increasing influence of feminism on video game culture; as a result, Gamergate is often
    viewed as a right-wing backlash against progressivism."

    https://www.amazon.com/Crash-Override-Gamergate-Destroyed-Against/dp/1610398084/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1504745321&sr=1-1&keywords=crash+override

    _Crash Override: How Gamergate (Nearly) Destroyed My Life, and How We Can Win the Fight Against Online Hate_
    by Zoe Quinn (2017)
  14. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    07 Sep '17 03:57 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Kill all white males?

    I say they create a race of lesbian Amazon women who enslave males to use them as slave labor and only as sperm donors..
    The first rule about "The Amazon Project", is that you don't talk about "The Amazon Project".
  15. 07 Sep '17 04:05
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Kill all white males?

    I say they create a race of lesbian Amazon women who enslave males to use them as slave labor and only as sperm donors..
    Lol. Thanks