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    So today, the week after the Armistice, we have a German chancellor calling for a European, well in reality a “EU”, army. The irony.

    Nick Clegg (and many many others) when he was deputy PM in 2014 ruthlessly mocked and ridiculed Farage for predicting this day, and yet here we are on the verge of the most undemocratic political leadership body in the western world weaponising itself.

    Can anyone except me and couple of others in here see the danger?

    In my mind it beggars belief!

    https://news.sky.com/video/merkel-calls-for-european-army-in-strasbourg-speech-11553467
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    @divegeester said
    So today, the week after the Armistice, we have a German chancellor calling for a European, well in reality a “EU”, army. The irony.

    Nick Clegg (and many many others) when he was deputy PM in 2014 ruthlessly mocked and ridiculed Farage for predicting this day, and yet here we are on the verge of the most undemocratic political leadership body in the western world weaponising itself.

    Can anyone except me and couple of others in here see the danger?
    France wants to form another army?

    That reminds me, how did France prepare for the reunification of Germany?

    France built speed bumps for their panzers.
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    13 Nov '18 20:59
    @divegeester said
    So today, the week after the Armistice, we have a German chancellor calling for a European, well in reality a “EU”, army. The irony.

    Nick Clegg (and many many others) when he was deputy PM in 2014 ruthlessly mocked and ridiculed Farage for predicting this day, and yet here we are on the verge of the most undemocratic political leadership body in the western world wea ...[text shortened]... s belief!

    https://news.sky.com/video/merkel-calls-for-european-army-in-strasbourg-speech-11553467
    Untwist your knickers. There won't be any EU army any time soon, your Goosebumps-esque portrayal of "the most undemocratic political leadership body in the Western world" notwithstanding.
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    13 Nov '18 21:02
    @kazetnagorra said
    Untwist your knickers. There won't be any EU army any time soon, your Goosebumps-esque portrayal of "the most undemocratic political leadership body in the Western world" notwithstanding.
    Oh thank you so much for your authoritative insight KN.

    phew!
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    @kazetnagorra said
    Untwist your knickers. There won't be any EU army any time soon, your Goosebumps-esque portrayal of "the most undemocratic political leadership body in the Western world" notwithstanding.
    Why would they when they have the US to defend them?

    Why fight for yourself when someone will do it for you?
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    @divegeester said
    Oh thank you so much for your authoritative insight KN.

    phew!
    Always glad to help. Keep an eye on the fleet in the Thames and the Yorkshire coast though, just in case.
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    13 Nov '18 21:19
    @KazetNagorra

    Armies are expensive.

    Why spend you money on the military when you can spend it on a fabulous welfare system?

    If only the US would get rid of it's army and spend all its money the same way, the world would be a utopia.
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    13 Nov '18 21:23
    @kazetnagorra said
    Always glad to help. Keep an eye on the fleet in the Thames and the Yorkshire coast though, just in case.
    Maybe visit the naval history lectures in your uni once in a while.
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    @whodey said
    @KazetNagorra

    Armies are expensive.

    Why spend you money on the military when you can spend it on a fabulous welfare system?

    If only the US would get rid of it's army and spend all its money the same way, the world would be a utopia.
    Shut up Whodey you gland.
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    @divegeester said
    Shut up Whodey you gland.
    That is MR. Gland to you.
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    @divegeester said
    Shut up Whodey you gland.
    More like a lymph node, I'd say.
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    @suzianne said
    More like a lymph node, I'd say.
    Occasionally you do make me grin.
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    @divegeester said
    So today, the week after the Armistice, we have a German chancellor calling for a European, well in reality a “EU”, army. The irony.

    Nick Clegg (and many many others) when he was deputy PM in 2014 ruthlessly mocked and ridiculed Farage for predicting this day, and yet here we are on the verge of the most undemocratic political leadership body in the western world wea ...[text shortened]... s belief!

    https://news.sky.com/video/merkel-calls-for-european-army-in-strasbourg-speech-11553467
    You do know that the EU is at least as democratic as the UK, don’t you?

    And that if there’s one EU army, at least the EU won’t be fighting itself?

    That being said... it’s not an EU army. It’s going to be certain joined forces for specific missions.
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    https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/04/23/inenglish/1524469967_408328.html

    After Brexit, Spain’s Rota base will be new strategic HQ for the EU
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    @shavixmir said
    You do know that the EU is at least as democratic as the UK, don’t you?
    You need to be able to demonstrate this.
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