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  1. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    27 Jan '17 22:42
    Ethically challenging to say the least. From Slate:



    Ethics experts and good-government watchdogs spent months warning that Donald Trump would face a swirling mess of conflicts of interest once he took office. One week into his presidency, the full scope of that ethical catastrophe is already coming into focus.

    In no particular order, the world learned this week that:

    Trump replaced the head of the General Services Administration, the federal agency that effectively serves as the landlord for the new Trump hotel in Washington and has been asked to investigate whether Trump is now in violation of that lease.
    Trump signed orders clearing the way for the disputed Keystone XL and Dakota Access oil pipelines to proceed. As recently as last summer, the president owned between $15,000 and $50,000 in stock in the company building the Dakota project, and its chief executive donated $100,000 to the Trump Victory Fund, a joint effort between Trump and the Republican Party. (Trump claims to have sold off his stock portfolio before the election, though he has not provided documentation proving he did.)
    Trump signaled his intent to sign an order suspending the granting of visas to seven predominantly Muslim countries. Not on the list: Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Indonesia, Turkey, Qatar, Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, and Azerbaijan, aka predominantly Muslim countries where the Trump Organization has existing business interests.[Note: Not a single one of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were from countries where Trump intends to suspend visas - no1].
    Trump is pushing forward with his plans for a massive, privatization-heavy infrastructure bill that appears tailor-made for cronyism and self-dealing.
    The Trump Organization hired a longtime Republican lawyer as its ethics adviser and a longtime Trump executive as its chief compliance counsel. Neither one of those familiar faces is likely to raise a stink in Trump Tower. Furthermore, both have a clear incentive to play nice since they’d put their jobs at risk if their oversight proves too costly to the company signing their paychecks.
    The CEO of Trump Hotels is planning a massive domestic expansion, a decision that will significantly compound the conflicts of interests created by its existing portfolio.
    The Trump-owned Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, doubled its initiation fee to $200,000 for new members after Trump was elected.
    At least two of Trump’s wealthy foreign business partners got the VIP treatment during the inauguration weekend, including plenty of time with the new first family.
    The American Chamber of Commerce in Canada, a business lobby focused on North American trade, made a sudden, last-second decision to move a scheduled event from the Vancouver home of a U.S. diplomat to the newest addition to the Trump Hotel family in the same city. (The Trump Organization does not own the Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver, but it makes money managing the property and cutting naming-rights deals.)

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/27/donald_trump_s_first_week_as_president_was_full_of_conflicts_of_interest.html

    Ugh.
  2. 27 Jan '17 23:17 / 2 edits
    Trump very well may be the first human being in office that has used that office to get filthy rich.

    Hope this does not catch on.

    Why once word gets out, everyone will want to have that job!
  3. 27 Jan '17 23:23
    I thought he was going to burn books.
  4. 27 Jan '17 23:33 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Eladar
    I thought he was going to burn books.
    No, no, first you have to build the concentration camps, then burn the books.

    Please read your history!

    And we all know what a builder Trump is. My guess is that they will be the first high tower concentration camps with the option of gambling away what meager wealth they will still have left inside the camps.
  5. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    28 Jan '17 00:18
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Ethically challenging to say the least. From Slate:



    Ethics experts and good-government watchdogs spent months warning that Donald Trump would face a swirling mess of conflicts of interest once he took office. One week into his presidency, the full scope of that ethical catastrophe is already coming into focus.

    In no particular order, the ...[text shortened]... 2017/01/27/donald_trump_s_first_week_as_president_was_full_of_conflicts_of_interest.html

    Ugh.
    Must be tough having a president who was actually a businessman first, instead of the career pigs at the trough we usually deal with.

    And: really?
    Slate?
    Come on, man.
  6. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    28 Jan '17 03:14
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Must be tough having a president who was actually a businessman first, instead of the career pigs at the trough we usually deal with.

    And: really?
    Slate?
    Come on, man.
    If continuing to be a businessman was so important to King Donald I, he should not have sought an office which prohibits him from enriching himself in the manner he continues to do.

    Is there anything in the article that isn't true? No, making your childish ad hominem irrelevant.
  7. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    28 Jan '17 04:00
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    If continuing to be a businessman was so important to King Donald I, he should not have sought an office which prohibits him from enriching himself in the manner he continues to do.

    Is there anything in the article that isn't true? No, making your childish ad hominem irrelevant.
    Why do you continue wading into water so clearly above your head?

    There is literally nothing in the Constitution which prohibits the president from conducting his own affairs while also running the country.

    NEXT!
  8. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    28 Jan '17 04:48
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Must be tough having a president who was actually a businessman first, instead of the career pigs at the trough we usually deal with.

    And: really?
    Slate?
    Come on, man.
    Businessmen run businesses. They have no experience running a country, and are usually terrible at it.
  9. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    28 Jan '17 05:39 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Why do you continue wading into water so clearly above your head?

    There is literally nothing in the Constitution which prohibits the president from conducting his own affairs while also running the country.

    NEXT!
    Article I, Section 9, Clause 8:

    And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

    Many of the things on that list constitute sufficient "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" sufficient to warrant impeachment.


    Another right winger unfamiliar with the US Constitution.
  10. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    28 Jan '17 07:03
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    Why do you continue wading into water so clearly above your head?

    There is literally nothing in the Constitution which prohibits the president from conducting his own affairs while also running the country.

    NEXT!
    Every post you make I ask myself roughly the same question... although usually I think puddle rather than water... and I'm pretty sure all these topics are above your head; even if you're on dry land.
  11. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    28 Jan '17 07:04
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Ethically challenging to say the least. From Slate:



    Ethics experts and good-government watchdogs spent months warning that Donald Trump would face a swirling mess of conflicts of interest once he took office. One week into his presidency, the full scope of that ethical catastrophe is already coming into focus.

    In no particular order, the ...[text shortened]... 2017/01/27/donald_trump_s_first_week_as_president_was_full_of_conflicts_of_interest.html

    Ugh.
    Sad to see such a great democracy go down the toilet like this...
  12. Subscriber FreakyKBH
    Acquired Taste...
    28 Jan '17 10:20
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Article I, Section 9, Clause 8:

    And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

    Many of the things on that list constitute sufficient "High Crimes and Misdemeanors" sufficient to warrant impeachment.


    Another right winger unfamiliar with the US Constitution.
    As I stated, nothing in the Constitution prohibits a president from running his business while also running the country.
  13. 28 Jan '17 13:16
    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    As I stated, nothing in the Constitution prohibits a president from running his business while also running the country.
    If the US were run like a business, it would not be as far in debt as it is.

    As I sat there watching the inauguration with "W" in the background who is still clueless, perhaps it is nice to finally have someone in office who is not a inbred lawyer.

    Who knows, maybe Trump will do good after all.
  14. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    28 Jan '17 16:19
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Businessmen run businesses. They have no experience running a country, and are usually terrible at it.
    So far, he gets an A+
  15. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    28 Jan '17 17:55
    Originally posted by whodey
    If the US were run like a business, it would not be as far in debt as it is.

    As I sat there watching the inauguration with "W" in the background who is still clueless, perhaps it is nice to finally have someone in office who is not a inbred lawyer.

    Who knows, maybe Trump will do good after all.
    Trump had to have four companies go bankrupt because he amassed too much debt for them to handle.

    But somehow you think he's going to reduce the government debt with a plan of massive tax cuts, big increases in military spending, etc. etc. etc.