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  1. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    06 Dec '09 10:55
    http://sarahpalinexposed.com/

    According to aids for Senator McCain, Sarah Palin did not know basic civics, thought Africa was a country, and was (and is) frequently given to temper tantrums when she did not get her way concerning the smallest details of the 2008 campaign. If this really is the leader of the Republican party, it's small wonder there having problems winning elections.
  2. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    06 Dec '09 13:21
    Originally posted by bill718
    If this really is the leader of the Republican party, it's small wonder there having problems winning elections.
    I suppose the best we can hope for is that her popularity will follow the same trend as all other market bubbles, to loom large as the hottest ticket in town until finally it bursts when the true value of the underlying stock is exposed as not being able to justify the wild speculative values people are willing to assign to her brand.

    While her pick as VP and her subsequent reality media show has generated a lot of interest to be sure, her biggest problem now would surely be that there is far too much time left before 2012 for that bubble of interest to remain inflated.
  3. 06 Dec '09 16:01
    Originally posted by kmax87
    I suppose the best we can hope for is that her popularity will follow the same trend as all other market bubbles, to loom large as the hottest ticket in town until finally it bursts when the true value of the underlying stock is exposed as not being able to justify the wild speculative values people are willing to assign to her brand.

    While her pick as VP ...[text shortened]... that there is far too much time left before 2012 for that bubble of interest to remain inflated.
    Her popularity is waaaay overstated. Her poll numbers are consistently dismal, but her supporters will always fall back on the crowds she draws. This is a big mistake on their part.

    Do her crowds consist of 51% of registered voters? Of course not. Even if her support drops to 20% she will still draw huge, loud crowds. Why? Because those who do support her do so with great enthusiasm. People either love her or hate her. And unfortunately for her supporters the most enthusiastic vote in the world is still only one vote.
  4. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    06 Dec '09 16:08
    Originally posted by bill718
    If this really is the leader of the Republican party, it's small wonder there having problems winning elections.
    Sorry; but that makes no sense.

    The earliest one could possibly make any case that Palin has been the "leader of the party" (which she's not and never had been, but bear with me) is AFTER the 2008 election. Since then, including the 2008 runoffs and the 2009 governor races, the GOP has done quite well, thank you.
  5. 06 Dec '09 16:11
    Originally posted by sh76
    Sorry; but that makes no sense.

    The earliest one could possibly make any case that Palin has been the "leader of the party" (which she's not and never had been, but bear with me) is AFTER the 2008 election. Since then, including the 2008 runoffs and the 2009 governor races, the GOP has done quite well, thank you.
    You have to understand, ever since "W" left politics Palin is the only punching bag the left has left, so let them have their fun.
  6. 06 Dec '09 16:52
    She can lead my party. Just me, her and a cowboy hat.
  7. 06 Dec '09 17:41
    Originally posted by whodey
    You have to understand, ever since "W" left politics Palin is the only punching bag the left has left, so let them have their fun.
    Is it a coincidence republican presidential/vice presidential candidates tend to be stupid?
  8. 06 Dec '09 18:32 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    Is it a coincidence republican presidential/vice presidential candidates tend to be stupid?
    Dick Cheney has put himself out there quite a bit with his criticisms on Iraq, Afghanistan and detainees.

    You know, since he set such a fine example for all three of those issues.
  9. 06 Dec '09 18:32
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    Is it a coincidence republican presidential/vice presidential candidates tend to be stupid?
    Then why is Obama following his policies?
  10. 06 Dec '09 18:33
    Originally posted by whodey
    Then why is Obama following his policies?
    What exactly are you referring to?
  11. 06 Dec '09 18:39 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    What exactly are you referring to?
    Contionue to spend like drunken sailor, only on steriods this time. Bail out large corporations in the name of "saving the tax payer who has to pay for it all". Seek to implement more entitlement programs we cannot afford. Continue wars over seas that we cannot afford and have no idea on how to "win"....and the list goes on.
  12. 06 Dec '09 19:07
    Originally posted by whodey
    Then why is Obama following his policies?
    well, its not like he can suddenly change everything immediately, the process is gradual.
  13. 06 Dec '09 19:50
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    well, its not like he can suddenly change everything immediately, the process is gradual.
    But he is accelerating spending, not gradually toning it down.
  14. 06 Dec '09 21:00
    Originally posted by whodey
    Contionue to spend like drunken sailor, only on steriods this time. Bail out large corporations in the name of "saving the tax payer who has to pay for it all". Seek to implement more entitlement programs we cannot afford. Continue wars over seas that we cannot afford and have no idea on how to "win"....and the list goes on.
    You put the bar pretty low to consider someone a "clone"

    Barack Obama opposed about half of the legislation that Bush signed. Further more, Obama has gone completely opposite directions from Bush on a variety of fronts.

    Obama opposed the war in Iraq but has always supported going after al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. His policies have been competely consistent on this. All you have stated are vague generalities, "Both spend a lot and are involved in wars overseas"