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  1. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    22 Mar '10 19:12 / 1 edit
    *When Lawmakers passed Social Security into law, Republicans decried it as a Socialist Program.

    *When Lawmakers formed the Veterans administration and FHA, Republicans said it was a Socialist takeover of the housing industry

    *When Lawmakers formed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Republicans called it a Socialist program that would cripple America's banking system.

    *When Lawmakers passed Medicare into law, Republicans grumbled about "that Socialist big government program that may bankrupt America."

    *When Lawmakers recently passed a watered down healthcare plan helping America's most poverty stricken get access to a few grains of healthcare benifits, Republicans once again played the "Socialist" card. But this time the people had become tired of hearing it.

    So...just like the little boy who cried wolf, Republicans have now cried "Socialism" once too often, and the fear factor is now gone. Poor little Republicans! :'(
  2. 22 Mar '10 19:14
    Originally posted by bill718
    *When Lawmakers passed Social Security into law, Republicans decried it as a Socialist Program.

    *When Lawmakers formed the Veterans administration and FHA, Republicans said it was a Socialist takeover of the housing industry

    *When Lawmakers formed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Republicans called it a Socialist program that would cripple Am ...[text shortened]... cialism" once too often, and the fear factor is now gone. Poor little Republicans! :'(
    so you're saying these were not socialist laws?
  3. 22 Mar '10 19:57
    If you look at the history of how various legislation was passed, you'll find the opposition usually predicts all sorts of unspeakable horrors, but with very few exceptions (Prohibition comes to mind), things actually work out reasonably well and the public ends up liking it.

    That's not to say that major legislation is ever problem-free. Over the years, many laws have been frequently amended or restructured to meet various issues as they arise. I expect this will be especially true for healthcare reform.
  4. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    22 Mar '10 21:00
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    so you're saying these were not socialist laws?
    Repulsicans see communists everywhere. The last time I was in a repulsicans house there were commies trying to sneak out of the toilet.

    You people are paranoid. Seriously and quite badly paranoid.
  5. Standard member joneschr
    Some guy
    22 Mar '10 22:31
    Originally posted by shavixmir
    Repulsicans see communists everywhere. The last time I was in a repulsicans house there were commies trying to sneak out of the toilet.

    You people are paranoid. Seriously and quite badly paranoid.
    Yeah, but really... what were you doing in the toilet?
  6. 22 Mar '10 23:05
    Originally posted by bill718
    *When Lawmakers passed Social Security into law, Republicans decried it as a Socialist Program.

    *When Lawmakers formed the Veterans administration and FHA, Republicans said it was a Socialist takeover of the housing industry

    *When Lawmakers formed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Republicans called it a Socialist program that would cripple Am ...[text shortened]... cialism" once too often, and the fear factor is now gone. Poor little Republicans! :'(
    power to the people!
  7. 22 Mar '10 23:33
    Originally posted by bill718
    *When Lawmakers passed Social Security into law, Republicans decried it as a Socialist Program.

    *When Lawmakers formed the Veterans administration and FHA, Republicans said it was a Socialist takeover of the housing industry

    *When Lawmakers formed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Republicans called it a Socialist program that would cripple Am ...[text shortened]... cialism" once too often, and the fear factor is now gone. Poor little Republicans! :'(
    Just wondering.........which one of those programs was not Socialism?

    The story of the boy who cried wold has the dimension that the boy didn't really see a a wolf. Had he seen a wolf and been ignored, the fools would have been those who ignored the warning.

    Do you know what socialism is? What is the basis of its philosophy?
  8. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    23 Mar '10 02:09
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Just wondering.........which one of those programs was not Socialism?

    The story of the boy who cried wold has the dimension that the boy didn't really see a a wolf. Had he seen a wolf and been ignored, the fools would have been those who ignored the warning.

    Do you know what socialism is? What is the basis of its philosophy?
    Socialism is when the workers control the means of production. I don't see it anywhere.
  9. 23 Mar '10 02:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Socialism is when the workers control the means of production. I don't see it anywhere.
    the self employed, like me!
  10. 23 Mar '10 05:00
    Originally posted by bill718
    *When Lawmakers passed Social Security into law, Republicans decried it as a Socialist Program.

    *When Lawmakers formed the Veterans administration and FHA, Republicans said it was a Socialist takeover of the housing industry

    *When Lawmakers formed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Republicans called it a Socialist program that would cripple Am ...[text shortened]... cialism" once too often, and the fear factor is now gone. Poor little Republicans! :'(
    and on... and on... until the country looked a lot more like socialist Europe... that IS a sad story, let that be a warning to all of us to prevent slow growth and stagnation that allows poverty to gain stronger roots.
  11. 23 Mar '10 05:01
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    so you're saying these were not socialist laws?
    he's just blathering to himself again.
  12. 23 Mar '10 05:03
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    If you look at the history of how various legislation was passed, you'll find the opposition usually predicts all sorts of unspeakable horrors, but with very few exceptions (Prohibition comes to mind), things actually work out reasonably well and the public ends up liking it.

    That's not to say that major legislation is ever problem-free. Over the years ...[text shortened]... eet various issues as they arise. I expect this will be especially true for healthcare reform.
    That's if you don't have a problem with trillions in debt, rising budget deficits annually, the near bankruptcy of various government programs simulatneously, and high & rising taxes as a problem.
  13. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    23 Mar '10 07:10
    Originally posted by eljefejesus
    and on... and on... until the country looked a lot more like socialist Europe... that IS a sad story, let that be a warning to all of us to prevent slow growth and stagnation that allows poverty to gain stronger roots.
    Socialist Europe?? Many of those European countries you are whining about have higher standards of living, better healthcare, better education, and a cleaner enviornment than the good old USA. Yup...sounds pretty sad to me!!
  14. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    23 Mar '10 09:07
    Originally posted by bill718
    *When Lawmakers passed Social Security into law, Republicans decried it as a Socialist Program.

    *When Lawmakers formed the Veterans administration and FHA, Republicans said it was a Socialist takeover of the housing industry

    *When Lawmakers formed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Republicans called it a Socialist program that would cripple Am ...[text shortened]... cialism" once too often, and the fear factor is now gone. Poor little Republicans! :'(
    Looks like they've been on the mark each time, one follows the other exactly as predicted.
  15. Donation rwingett
    Ming the Merciless
    23 Mar '10 10:14
    Originally posted by bill718
    Socialist Europe?? Many of those European countries you are whining about have higher standards of living, better healthcare, better education, and a cleaner enviornment than the good old USA. Yup...sounds pretty sad to me!!
    They keep trying to belittle 'Socialist Europe', but the fact remains that there nine of those 'Socialist European' countries with a higher Human Development Index than the US.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdi