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  1. Subscriberno1marauder
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    19 Jan '18 12:37
    Some very interesting revelations are coming out regarding links between the three with a possibility that Russian cash was funneled through the NRA to help the Trump campaign. From the New York Times;

    In May 2016, Paul Erickson, an activist who has raised money for the National Rifle Association, sent an email to Rick Dearborn, an adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, with the super-subtle subject heading “Kremlin Connection.” As The New York Times reported last December, Erickson wrote that Russia was “quietly but actively seeking a dialogue with the U.S.” and planned to use the N.R.A.’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky. that month to make “first contact” with the Trump camp. At the convention, Donald Trump Jr. met with Aleksandr Torshin, an ally of President Vladimir Putin of Russia, reputed mobster and deputy governor of the Russian central bank.

    This is one of those episodes that is easy to lose track of amid the avalanche of evidence connecting the Trump administration and Russia. But it takes on new significance because of an intriguing, potentially explosive article that McClatchy published Thursday headlined, “F.B.I. Investigating Whether Russian Money Went to N.R.A. to Help Trump.” We know of numerous secret communications between members of the Trump campaign and Russia, and favors asked for and received. This, however, is the most significant hint of a money trail.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/opinion/nra-russia-investigation-trump.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

    So Donald Trump Jr. met with a deputy governor of the Russian central bank at an NRA convention during the campaign. So what? Well, the McClatchy article gives some interesting details. It isn't overly subtle:

    The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy.

    FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said.

    It is illegal to use foreign money to influence federal elections.

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    It’s unclear how long the Torshin inquiry has been ongoing, but the news comes as Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s sweeping investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election, including whether the Kremlin colluded with Trump’s campaign, has been heating up.

    Then continues:

    he NRA reported spending a record $55 million on the 2016 elections, including $30 million to support Trump – triple what the group devoted to backing Republican Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential race. Most of that was money was spent by an arm of the NRA that is not required to disclose its donors.

    Two people with close connections to the powerful gun lobby said its total election spending actually approached or exceeded $70 million. The reporting gap could be explained by the fact that independent groups are not required to reveal how much they spend on Internet ads or field operations, including get-out-the-vote efforts.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html

    Could the NRA really have been dumb/arrogant enough to take Russian money and use it illegally in the 2016 campaign?
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    19 Jan '18 12:451 edit
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Some very interesting revelations are coming out regarding links between the three with a possibility that Russian cash was funneled through the NRA to help the Trump campaign. From the New York Times;

    In May 2016, Paul Erickson, an activist who has raised money for the National Rifle Association, sent an email to Rick Dearborn, an adviser to Donald ...[text shortened]... have been dumb/arrogant enough to take Russian money and use it illegally in the 2016 campaign?
    I saw this one, but as you know documented proof of a crime can be difficult to obtain, especially with so much campaign financing coming from offshore shell companies. Maybe that's not the case here, but I think more disclosure is in order.

    https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2017/07/17/435886/secret-foreign-spending-u-s-elections-america-needs-disclose-act/
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    19 Jan '18 14:05
    How stupid do you have to be to think Russia help Trump win, then in the next breath brag that Clinton got the most votes...LOL
  4. SubscriberAThousandYoung
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    19 Jan '18 19:52
    https://www.alternet.org/haiti-accuses-trump-laundering-money-former-dictator-baby-doc-duvalier
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