News down the pipe suggests that Charlie Kirk's killer was a Groyper which aligns him with Nick Fuentes who was not a friend of the Kirk. Turning Point USA were the constant targets of America First.
Now if AXIOS denies any relationship with Kirk's killer and Groypers, there might just be a connection. For what its worth Kirk's killer is part of the new un-serious generation, where everything is a little passe, and everything about life is ironic. Kirk's killer grew up in a conservative home and had a lot of exposure to guns. Using them, shooting them. The issue is that we have a generation growing up that for all intents and purposes are not easily categorized as left or right but have the capacity to do shocking things just because they can.
@DJJ saidStatistically, the right are way more prone to violence. Look up official numbers.
@kmax87
The guys own mother said he was hard core left. Last 12 months. So did everyone else in the family.
The point that needs repeating is: why has the US so much (political) violence?
It doesn’t matter from what side. Why is it there in the first place?
@DJJ saidThe reporting I saw was the mum saying he leaned left and was pro gay and trans rights centred.
@kmax87
The guys own mother said he was hard core left. Last 12 months. So did everyone else in the family.
I really think that we do ourselves a disservice to pigeon-hole the youth of today as left or right. They see too many problems caused by us to care about the systems our generation built. Environmental decay, global warming, uparalled greed, economic decline etc they are becoming impatient and are not waiting for us to fix things. Luigi Mangione, now TR.
If they dont like something they are going to make a change. Themselves. And if it means violence, they just dont care and will adopt violence because they are disconnected and violence is probably the one thing that affirms them being real.
@DJJ saidI've met hard core leftists. Theyre vegan and cannot even kill house flies.
@kmax87
The guys own mother said he was hard core left. Last 12 months. So did everyone else in the family.
Everybody fighting to put this guy on some kind of ideology spectrum to support their own narratives. We still don't know but what y'all post as opinion. You quote his mom but his grandma said the opposite. The texts are super weird and appears almost AI generated. It seems more and more likely this guy just had a mental break.
@shavixmir saidPeople! 40 likes or else this post will be the bane of your existence!
If the right eats itself, will that create even larger nazi 💩’s?
@shavixmir saidI did my part.
People! 40 likes or else this post will be the bane of your existence!
@kmax87 saidSomething similar is happening in the UK, only without the guns. People have been protesting outside the hotels which are currently home to immigrants awaiting a process. They carry Union Jacks, and are therefore labelled as 'right wing', but that isn't a correct generic description, they're just people who have had enough, and the immigrants are an easy target. The UK has in (relatively) recent times been changing parties and leaders of parties like most people change their socks, the current Labour government is a dogs' breakfast, and the far right is rising in popularity. This is not, I think, because the populous is lurching rightwards, so much as the fact that people are looking for somebody, anybody, to put together a coherent plan to lift the country out of the mire of economic gloom in which it currently resides. The right blames the left, and the left blames the right, and the man on the Clapham omnibus is caught in the middle, looking both ways at the same time.
The reporting I saw was the mum saying he leaned left and was pro gay and trans rights centred.
I really think that we do ourselves a disservice to pigeon-hole the youth of today as left or right. They see too many problems caused by us to care about the systems our generation built. Environmental decay, global warming, uparalled greed, economic decline etc they are becomin ...[text shortened]... e because they are disconnected and violence is probably the one thing that affirms them being real.
@shavixmir saidBasically the reason is that the U.S. was founded on principles of racism and violence, specifically political violence, and those principles have resonated and repeated themselves again & again throughout history.
Statistically, the right are way more prone to violence. Look up official numbers.
The point that needs repeating is: why has the US so much (political) violence?
It doesn’t matter from what side. Why is it there in the first place?
@AttilaTheHorn saidWe were a people who super expanded to the west with a relatively small population in a country some 3000 miles wide and 2000ish miles deep.
Basically the reason is that the U.S. was founded on principles of racism and violence, specifically political violence, and those principles have resonated and repeated themselves again & again throughout history.
A LOT OF territory plus range wars against first nation folks, they would have been inculcated into normalization of violence.
But the old west was not full of nightly shootouts like the old 'dime novels' showed them to be.
Still, when a crowd got together and say accuse a dude of stealing horses, a hanging offence but nobody comes to the dudes aid. So he gets hung and later found innocent.
Happens all the time in the US. We just have MILLIONS more high power weapons now.
Like THAT makes us safe. Right.
@kmax87 saidJust look at what is happening in Nepal right now. I think America may come to a Nepo/kids moment, a watershed event. I agree that the terms left and right are becoming meaningless. Massive dissatisfaction with the mess previous generations have made of things is making people desperate.
The reporting I saw was the mum saying he leaned left and was pro gay and trans rights centred.
I really think that we do ourselves a disservice to pigeon-hole the youth of today as left or right. They see too many problems caused by us to care about the systems our generation built. Environmental decay, global warming, uparalled greed, economic decline etc they are becomin ...[text shortened]... e because they are disconnected and violence is probably the one thing that affirms them being real.
@shavixmir saidDude, I thumb up nearly everything you post here. The choir is with you. 🙂
Oh no! This post is going to remain on top until is has 40 likes or receives a nobel prize for literary humor.