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  1. 22 Feb '10 18:25
    I'm putting this in the debate forum instead of sports because it's the moral issue I want to focus on.

    By the question in the title I'm referring to the general public. He obviously owes his wife, his family and even his sponsors an apology.

    I've heard a lot of babble from sports commentators and radio show hosts and people calling in about whether or not they "accept" or "believe" Tiger Wood's apology. I just a question for all you people. Why in the hell does he owe YOU an apology? Did he commit some kind of crime? Sure what he did was bad but I've seen athletes literally commit crimes and catch less heat than Tiger. He cheated on his wife. It's bad and it's hurtful to her and to their family, but why does that mean he must apologize to the entire planet? It has nothing to do you and it has nothing to do with me. He owes none of us an apology. To say otherwise is pure arrogance.
  2. 22 Feb '10 18:31
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_woods#Marital_infidelity_and_career_break

    A December 2009 study by Christopher R. Knittel and Victor Stango, economics professors at the University of California at Davis, estimated that the shareholder loss caused by Woods' alleged extramarital affairs to be between $5 billion and $12 billion.[225][226]
  3. 22 Feb '10 18:32
    if any of those companies were japanese he'd best keep a lookout for ninjas.
  4. 22 Feb '10 18:32
    what is he up to? 14? 17?
  5. 22 Feb '10 18:34
    too soon to measure a mass surge of young kids into golf classes?
  6. 22 Feb '10 18:35
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    I'm putting this in the debate forum instead of sports because it's the moral issue I want to focus on.

    By the question in the title I'm referring to the general public. He obviously owes his wife, his family and even his sponsors an apology.

    I've heard a lot of babble from sports commentators and radio show hosts and people calling in about ...[text shortened]... ng to do with me. He owes none of us an apology. To say otherwise is pure arrogance.
    I don't get it either, I don't see why the guy's sex life and marital problems are of any concern to anybody who isn't directly involved, but from what I've heard, some people think he owes an apology to the public because he was thought to be a "role model".
  7. 22 Feb '10 18:39
    think of all the mixed race kids. he's not just mixed, he's MAJORLY mixed. a beacon for all the biracial kids in America.

    now, depending on your viewpoint, he's let all this kids down in a major way, OR, he's excelled in two sports!

    i remember there was a footballer who, not long ago (relatively), tried to make it in baseball. i don't think he did too well.

    but now we've got Tiger! not just pretty good in one sport, made the team in the other sport! but EXCELLING in both!
  8. 22 Feb '10 18:41
    something must've happened recently because "Tiger Woods apology" is the top thread in General right now, too.
  9. 22 Feb '10 18:45
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    I don't get it either, I don't see why the guy's sex life and marital problems are of any concern to anybody who isn't directly involved, but from what I've heard, some people think he owes an apology to the public because he was thought to be a "role model".
    I don't understand why people view sportsmen as role models in the first place. Why should Tiger Woods be a role model simply because he is good at hitting a ball with a stick? Scientists, engineers, doctors, volunteer workers - those people should be role models!
  10. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    22 Feb '10 18:47 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    I'm putting this in the debate forum instead of sports because it's the moral issue I want to focus on.

    By the question in the title I'm referring to the general public. He obviously owes his wife, his family and even his sponsors an apology.

    I've heard a lot of babble from sports commentators and radio show hosts and people calling in about ng to do with me. He owes none of us an apology. To say otherwise is pure arrogance.
    Sponsors are entitled to pull the plug (subject to contractual fine print no doubt) Mrs Woods can make her own decision - stay or go, but Woods does not owe 'us' an apology. He should just tell them all to PO.

    Just get back on the golf course.
  11. 22 Feb '10 18:54
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    I don't understand why people view sportsmen as role models in the first place. Why should Tiger Woods be a role model simply because he is good at hitting a ball with a stick? Scientists, engineers, doctors, volunteer workers - those people should be role models!
    To be honest I don't really believe in "role models", you can admire certain individuals for their skills and knowledge in their area of work, but that's all, what they do in their private life is of no concern to anybody else, and even if they're serial cheaters or real a-holes in private that doesn't give anybody else the right to judge them or to expect anything from them.
  12. Subscriber Wajoma
    Die Cheeseburger
    22 Feb '10 19:00 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    To be honest I don't really believe in "role models", you can admire certain individuals for their skills and knowledge in their area of work, but that's all, what they do in their private life is of no concern to anybody else, and even if they're serial cheaters or real a-holes in private that doesn't give anybody else the right to judge them or to expect anything from them.
    There is a difference between judging him and being due an apology. I will judge my fellow man and I am prepared to be judged for my actions.
  13. 22 Feb '10 19:33
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    I'm putting this in the debate forum instead of sports because it's the moral issue I want to focus on.

    By the question in the title I'm referring to the general public. He obviously owes his wife, his family and even his sponsors an apology.

    I've heard a lot of babble from sports commentators and radio show hosts and people calling in about ...[text shortened]... ng to do with me. He owes none of us an apology. To say otherwise is pure arrogance.
    Of course not! He only owes a apology to his wife and kids but thats a personal matter.
    He sure as hell does not owe a apology( or anything) to porn star Jocelyn James!
  14. 22 Feb '10 19:51
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Of course not! He only owes a apology to his wife and kids but thats a personal matter.
    He sure as hell does not owe a apology( or anything) to porn star Jocelyn James!
    did he tell her about all those other women?
  15. 22 Feb '10 20:25
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    I'm putting this in the debate forum instead of sports because it's the moral issue I want to focus on.

    By the question in the title I'm referring to the general public. He obviously owes his wife, his family and even his sponsors an apology.

    I've heard a lot of babble from sports commentators and radio show hosts and people calling in about ...[text shortened]... ng to do with me. He owes none of us an apology. To say otherwise is pure arrogance.
    I agree, he owes me no apology... why should he.
    Unless he hopped on sarah palin? That might tick me off.