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    15 Nov '16 12:02
    Few things sting like a loss that was thought to be won, especially after such a hard campaign fight, but these protesters are not helping their cause or their political party by carrying on in this manner. They simply look like a bunch of sore losers. Whatever one thinks of Hillary Clinton, she was gracious and respectful in defeat in 2008 and in 2016. It's time for the protesters to follow her example, and stop clogging up the streets, disrupting traffic, and destroying property. There will always be another election.
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    15 Nov '16 12:06
    Originally posted by mchill
    Few things sting like a loss that was thought to be won, especially after such a hard campaign fight, but these protesters are not helping their cause or their political party by carrying on in this manner. They simply look like a bunch of sore losers. Whatever one thinks of Hillary Clinton, she was gracious and respectful in defeat in 2008 and in 2016. It's ...[text shortened]... the streets, disrupting traffic, and destroying property. There will always be another election.
    yes, in a democratic nation, protests should stop. do you hear yourself?
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    15 Nov '16 12:082 edits
    Originally posted by mchill
    It's time for the protesters to follow her example, and stop clogging up the streets, disrupting traffic, and destroying property.....
    ....and spitting their dummies, and soaking their bibs with tears, and spamming the board with their whinging.

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    15 Nov '16 12:10
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    yes, in a democratic nation, protests should stop. do you hear yourself?
    ...umm you missed the bit about 'destroying property',
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    15 Nov '16 12:101 edit
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    yes, in a democratic nation, protests should stop. do you hear yourself?
    Yes I do. To protest for awhile is fine, but to act like spoiled children, destroy property, and become violent, is not going to further their cause.
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    15 Nov '16 12:30
    Originally posted by mchill
    Few things sting like a loss that was thought to be won, especially after such a hard campaign fight, but these protesters are not helping their cause or their political party by carrying on in this manner. They simply look like a bunch of sore losers. Whatever one thinks of Hillary Clinton, she was gracious and respectful in defeat in 2008 and in 2016. It's ...[text shortened]... the streets, disrupting traffic, and destroying property. There will always be another election.
    Sorry. Polls show that only 20% of people agree that they should stop.
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    15 Nov '16 12:381 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    Few things sting like a loss that was thought to be won, especially after such a hard campaign fight, but these protesters are not helping their cause or their political party by carrying on in this manner. They simply look like a bunch of sore losers. Whatever one thinks of Hillary Clinton, she was gracious and respectful in defeat in 2008 and in 2016. It's ...[text shortened]... the streets, disrupting traffic, and destroying property. There will always be another election.
    As was already mentioned, they're not protesting a loss, they're protesting a scumbag being elected, despite more votes going to his opponent. Bush was widely considered the worst president ever after his first term; yet, there were no riots after he won again.

    Trump ran on a platform of bigotry and sexism that was far worse than Bush's, and still got elected; this is what protesters are demonstrating against.

    Painting the protesters as "sore losers" is deliberately missing the point.
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    15 Nov '16 12:40
    Originally posted by vivify
    As was already mentioned, they're not protesting a loss, they're protesting a scumbag being elected, despite more votes going to his opponent. Bush was widely considered the worst president ever after his first term; yet, there were no riots after he won again.

    Trump ran on a platform of bigotry and sexism that was far worse than Bush's, and still got elected; this is what protesters are demonstrating against.
    And the Trump voters are protesting against you vivify.
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    15 Nov '16 12:51
    Originally posted by Wajoma
    ...umm you missed the bit about 'destroying property',
    Shlongski just likes the "Rape Melenia" posters that add a touch of class to the protests.
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    15 Nov '16 13:49
    Originally posted by mchill
    Yes I do. To protest for awhile is fine, but to act like spoiled children, destroy property, and become violent, is not going to further their cause.
    ah yes, 5-6 cases of destroying property and everyone ignores the thousands of civilised people protesting in a civilised manner AS IS THEIR RIGHT.

    you arrest the rioters then you allow the rest to protest as much as they want, AS IS THEIR RIGHT
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    15 Nov '16 13:501 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    Yes I do. To protest for awhile is fine, but to act like spoiled children, destroy property, and become violent, is not going to further their cause.
    oops double post
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    15 Nov '16 14:08
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    ah yes, 5-6 cases of destroying property and everyone ignores the thousands of civilised people protesting in a civilised manner AS IS THEIR RIGHT.

    you arrest the rioters then you allow the rest to protest as much as they want, AS IS THEIR RIGHT
    It's not like they're going to change the result, so their efforts are futile
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    15 Nov '16 14:29
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    It's not like they're going to change the result, so their efforts are futile
    yes, that's the point of the protests. it's a bunch of whiny children that will whine until a democratic (well as "democratic" as the americans could manage and allow) process is overturned and they get their way.


    leaving sarcasm aside and to educate you on what the protests are actually about:
    their point is to make it clear they don't approve of trump, his campaign promises, how he treated and threatened to treat minorities. another point is to make it clear to the racists that now have the misguided impression that hate is an acceptable stance. to make it clear that they will oppose trump through every lawful mean they have. to make it clear that in 2 years, the midterms will be another occasion to voice their approval or disapproval.


    there are many reasons why someone protests in a democratic country. you seem to not have much of a clue about those reasons.
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    15 Nov '16 15:20
    Originally posted by Ashiitaka
    It's not like they're going to change the result, so their efforts are futile
    Most protests individually don't accomplish much, but taken together, protests can matter.

    I have respect for people who protest for what they believe, but I'd suggest to protesters that they advocate a message, not just screaming "I'm upset."

    For example, protesters against Trump might consider chanting (or signing) something like "Respect for all people" or "Down with misogyny and racism" or "Compassion for hard working undocumented immigrants." Protests like that might help.

    Banal and meaningless anti-platitudes like "Not my President" or "We reject the President-elect" are pointless as he is, in fact, your President and he's the President-elect whether you like it or not and is accepted as such by the vast majority of the public.

    Protesting in favor of the downtrodden makes you compassionate and caring. Protesting that you don't like the results of the election makes you petty and crybaby-ish.
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    15 Nov '16 15:35
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    yes, that's the point of the protests. it's a bunch of whiny children that will whine until a democratic (well as "democratic" as the americans could manage and allow) process is overturned and they get their way.


    leaving sarcasm aside and to educate you on what the protests are actually about:
    their point is to make it clear they don't approve of ...[text shortened]... eone protests in a democratic country. you seem to not have much of a clue about those reasons.
    I hope the protestors keep it up. Smashing store fronts and windshields has the same effect as labeling people you disagree with as racist, misogynist, and so on. Eventually people just stop listening to you.
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