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  1. Standard membersh76
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    26 Feb '16 14:451 edit
    I have to admit. I enjoyed seeing Rubio take Trump to the woodshed over and over again last night. He was so punch drunk that he went after the moderator like an enraged bull who'd already been stabbed 5 times by the matador.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/25/donald_trump_insults_debate_moderator_hugh_hewitt_nobody_listens_to_your_show.html

    But, at this point, are people still watching? Or have 40% of the Republican registered voters already decided that, come Hell or high water, we're going to "throw the bums out" and blow up the system?

    Here's the thing, folks: Sure, things could be improved, but things are not that terrible. Unemployment is under 6%. The economy is growing slowly, but growing. Inflation is low. Interest rates are low. Energy is cheap. Healthcare is crazy expensive (unless the government is paying for yours) but is at least accessible to almost everyone. Illegal immigration rates are down. Crime is generally down across the board from one or two decades ago. It's really not that bad out there, folks.

    So, before you blow up the system, I think you ought to think long and hard about what you're proposing to replace it with. Are things SOOO bad that we REALLY want a Dr. Strangelove cowboy with a hair-triggered temper and no experience governing anything to be put in charge of the world's largest economy (okay, second if you consider the EU one economy) and the world's most powerful military?

    Really, folks? You can't do any better than Donald -freaking- Trump? If you want to elect a loony neocon, at least get a policy wonk like Rush Limbaugh or Grover Norquist (okay, I'm kidding, but bear with me here). Is Donald Trump really going to know what to do to run a country? Or is he going to think he's running a reality TV show until it's too late?

    Really, people, I'm begging you. Think about it. Nominate Pretty Boy from the Gang of 8. Please. :'(
  2. Standard memberSleepyguy
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    26 Feb '16 14:55
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572
  3. Standard membersh76
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    26 Feb '16 15:03
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572
    Is that a "no"? 😉
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    26 Feb '16 15:15
    It's a poetic trainwreck just slowly derailing.
    A comedian's wet dream!
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    26 Feb '16 15:15
    Face it, sh76. The common sense Republican is long dead.
  6. Standard memberSleepyguy
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    26 Feb '16 15:221 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    Is that a "no"? 😉

    Yep. I'll vote Cruz in the primary, but if it's Rubio in the General, no thanks. The GOP as we know it needs to die.
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    26 Feb '16 15:341 edit
    No one should be surprised that he's tearing through the Republican primaries, because everything he's saying about his GOP opponents is true. They really are all stooges on the take, unable to stand up to Trump because they're not even people, but are, like Jeb and Rubio, just robo-babbling representatives of unseen donors.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-20160224
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    26 Feb '16 15:53
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    No one should be surprised that he's tearing through the Republican primaries, because everything he's saying about his GOP opponents is true. They really are all stooges on the take, unable to stand up to Trump because they're not even people, but are, like Jeb and Rubio, just robo-babbling representatives of unseen donors.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-20160224
    The best part of that article is this:

    Trump is no intellectual. He's not bringing Middlemarch to the toilet. If he had to jail with Stephen Hawking for a year, he wouldn't learn a thing about physics. Hawking would come out on Day 365 talking about models and football.

    Heh.
  9. Standard membersh76
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    26 Feb '16 18:05
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Originally posted by sh76
    [b]Is that a "no"? 😉


    Yep. I'll vote Cruz in the primary, but if it's Rubio in the General, no thanks. The GOP as we know it needs to die.[/b]
    And reborn from it a far right party who can never win more than 45% of any nationwide election?
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    26 Feb '16 18:32
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Face it, sh76. The common sense Republican is long dead.
    It is hard to fight loony extremists with common sense.
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    26 Feb '16 18:36
    Originally posted by sh76
    And reborn from it a far right party who can never win more than 45% of any nationwide election?
    There are no "national elections". Everything happens in State elections, including selection of Presidents, and Presidential candidates. That is why nationwide polls so often fail to predict political realities.
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    26 Feb '16 19:39
    Originally posted by sh76 to Sleepyguy
    And reborn from it a far right party who can never win more than 45% of any nationwide election?
    Extreme right-wing Americans should not lose hope. The proportion of Americans ready to
    reveal, if not also celebrate, their extreme overt racism in public might well increase soon.

    Donald Trump has evidently embraced overt legal discrimination against Muslims in the USA.
    How many more steps will it take before some concentration camp doors begin to open?
    (I mean 'concentration camp' more in the sense of what happened to ethnic Japanese in
    the USA during the Second World War than in the sense of Auschwitz.)
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    26 Feb '16 20:27
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    The best part of that article is this:

    Trump is no intellectual. He's not bringing Middlemarch to the toilet. If he had to jail with Stephen Hawking for a year, he wouldn't learn a thing about physics. Hawking would come out on Day 365 talking about models and football.

    Heh.
    Shows what is really important.
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    26 Feb '16 20:28
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Extreme right-wing Americans should not lose hope. The proportion of Americans ready to
    reveal, if not also celebrate, their extreme overt racism in public might well increase soon.

    Donald Trump has evidently embraced overt legal discrimination against Muslims in the USA.
    How many more steps will it take before some concentration camp doors begin to ...[text shortened]... ened to ethnic Japanese in
    the USA during the Second World War than in the sense of Auschwitz.)
    You are obviously racist in your constant anti white comments, also sexist in your anti male bashing..

    What race are you partial to?
  15. Standard memberSleepyguy
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    26 Feb '16 20:431 edit
    Originally posted by sh76
    And reborn from it a far right party who can never win more than 45% of any nationwide election?
    Yes. There's not enough effective difference between the "moderate" GOP and Democrats to make it worth caring anymore. With DC as corrupt as it is, Hillary or Rubio will take us to the same place.

    I want Cruz, but if that's not going to happen then I'd prefer a good sized meteorite taking out DC. Barring that, the closest thing to a meteorite is Trump. I want the Squish Republicans in the Senate and House to have to deal with a meteorite, or Trump. They deserve it.

    EDIT: And I'll also add that if Rubio's the nominee then I hope Trump runs as an independent.
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