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  1. Behind the scenes
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    29 Jan '17 04:28
    Trump's order barring refugees and migrants from Muslim countries is not passing muster with the judges. Now "The Donald" begins a long learning curve on the limits of his power. Better luck next time Donnie!


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/breaking-judge-stays-deportations-trump-order-barring-refugees-migrants-from-muslim-countries-triggers-chaos-outrage/ar-AAmlFFZ
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    29 Jan '17 04:29
    Originally posted by mchill
    Trump's order barring refugees and migrants from Muslim countries is not passing muster with the judges. Now "The Donald" begins a long learning curve on the limits of his power. Better luck next time Donnie!


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/breaking-judge-stays-deportations-trump-order-barring-refugees-migrants-from-muslim-countries-triggers-chaos-outrage/ar-AAmlFFZ
    Trump should simply stop all immigration until they can properly vet everyone.

    That would put an end to this court order.
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    29 Jan '17 04:40
    Originally posted by whodey
    Trump should simply stop all immigration until they can properly vet everyone.

    That would put an end to this court order.
    That would put an end to this court order.

    I very much doubt that. Donald Trump is President, not God (believe it or not) he cannot simply override the judicial branch of our government.
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    29 Jan '17 04:50
    Originally posted by mchill
    That would put an end to this court order.

    I very much doubt that. Donald Trump is President, not God (believe it or not) he cannot simply override the judicial branch of our government.
    They are temporarily not being deported but still being held. Only a matter of time.
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    29 Jan '17 05:05
    Originally posted by mchill
    Trump's order barring refugees and migrants from Muslim countries is not passing muster with the judges. Now "The Donald" begins a long learning curve on the limits of his power. Better luck next time Donnie!


    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/breaking-judge-stays-deportations-trump-order-barring-refugees-migrants-from-muslim-countries-triggers-chaos-outrage/ar-AAmlFFZ
    Once The Donald has his judges in place, then he will be God.

    Until then it is still Obama.
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    29 Jan '17 05:32
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    They are temporarily not being deported but still being held. Only a matter of time.
    Not true in all cases:

    Donnelly, an appointee of President Barack Obama, acted on a petition filed early Saturday, seeking to release Hameed Khalid Darweesh and Haider Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshawi from detention at JFK Airport. The case was filed by the ACLU, the International Refugee Assistance Project the National Immigration Law Center and a Yale Law School legal clinic.

    Darweesh was released early Saturday afternoon, according to aides to New York Democratic Reps. Jerry Nadler and Nydia Velazquez, who went to JFK to try and free the men. Alshawi was released Saturday night, said a Nadler spokesman who indicated earlier that at least 10 others had been detained at the airport.

    "We are pleased to announce that Hameed Khalid Darweesh has been released and can now be reunited with his family," the two lawmakers said in a statement earlier Saturday. “

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-refugees-lawsuit-iraq-visas-234305
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    29 Jan '17 10:20
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Not true in all cases:

    Donnelly, an appointee of President Barack Obama, acted on a petition filed early Saturday, seeking to release Hameed Khalid Darweesh and Haider Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshawi from detention at JFK Airport. The case was filed by the ACLU, the International Refugee Assistance Project the National Immigration Law Center and a Yale Law ...[text shortened]... er Saturday. “

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-refugees-lawsuit-iraq-visas-234305
    Trump will win. The case law and legislation is already established since 2002 to back his Executive Order. The judge who did this is one of Obama's flaming liberal appointees whose expertise was in family law before being schmoozed up to a Federal Judgeship in 2015. She's as qualified to rule on this as I am to give a mass at the Vatican.

    comment zerohedge.com
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    29 Jan '17 10:49
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Trump will win. The case law and legislation is already established since 2002 to back his Executive Order. The judge who did this is one of Obama's flaming liberal appointees whose expertise was in family law before being schmoozed up to a Federal Judgeship in 2015. She's as qualified to rule on this as I am to give a mass at the Vatican.

    comment zerohedge.com
    As I said, the power is in the political hack judges that get appointed.
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    29 Jan '17 11:09
    Originally posted by mchill
    That would put an end to this court order.

    I very much doubt that. Donald Trump is President, not God (believe it or not) he cannot simply override the judicial branch of our government.
    The issue is that he cannot target certain nationalities over others.

    If he targets everyone until the system can be revamped, that would not be targeting only certain people.
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    29 Jan '17 11:10
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Not true in all cases:

    Donnelly, an appointee of President Barack Obama, acted on a petition filed early Saturday, seeking to release Hameed Khalid Darweesh and Haider Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshawi from detention at JFK Airport. The case was filed by the ACLU, the International Refugee Assistance Project the National Immigration Law Center and a Yale Law ...[text shortened]... er Saturday. “

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/trump-refugees-lawsuit-iraq-visas-234305
    Admit it, immigration is a natural right that cannot be denied.

    That is pretty much the position of the court system now, right?
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    29 Jan '17 12:10
    Originally posted by whodey
    The issue is that he cannot target certain nationalities over others.

    If he targets everyone until the system can be revamped, that would not be targeting only certain people.
    He can do what he likes, he is the Emperor!
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    29 Jan '17 12:19
    Looks like Trump's gross incompetence, ignorance, aggression and stupidity are coalescing into a cluster-f*** on an unbelievable scale.

    Are you republicans still licking his knee-caps, or are you going to cash-out while you still have some self-respect in tact?
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    29 Jan '17 12:50
    Originally posted by whodey
    Trump should simply stop all immigration until they can properly vet everyone.

    That would put an end to this court order.
    They've BEEN properly vetting people for years now.

    Here's the difference.

    Under Obama's administration, vetting an immigrant from Syria took TWO YEARS.

    Trump places a hold on immigration for 90 to 120 days so immigrants can experience "Extreme" vetting.

    He plans to do in 90 to 120 days what they were spending two years doing before?

    How is that "extreme"?? I'd call two years pretty damn extreme.
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    29 Jan '17 12:52
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Trump will win. The case law and legislation is already established since 2002 to back his Executive Order. The judge who did this is one of Obama's flaming liberal appointees whose expertise was in family law before being schmoozed up to a Federal Judgeship in 2015. She's as qualified to rule on this as I am to give a mass at the Vatican.

    comment zerohedge.com
    zerohedge


    Still with the fake news sites?
  15. SubscriberSuzianne
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    29 Jan '17 12:53
    Originally posted by whodey
    The issue is that he cannot target certain nationalities over others.

    If he targets everyone until the system can be revamped, that would not be targeting only certain people.
    No reason to "revamp" an already working system.
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