Originally posted by C Hess
How can you not figure this out for yourself? This is one of the simplest concepts you can hope to come across in life. It doesn't get any simpler than this, so it can't possibly be an over simplification. You can't ask an atheist where atheists as a group get their world views and values from, any more than you can ask a theist to explain the views of all ot ...[text shortened]... ists. There are as many answers as there are ideologies, (a)theism in itself is not an ideology.
Because ideas have consequences-Nietzsche knew this, Turner knew this. Yes, from a simple view Atheism is a denial of a god/gods existence.
But that is like saying Christianity is an affirmation of a god/gods existence. We all would claim that is a gross over-simplification of Christianity.
Ideas have consequences. That is my point. If Atheism cannot (as you suggest) supply reasonable answers to fundamental questions in life (such as meaning and morality) then you simply haven't learned to appreciate the reality of life.
Atheists must form some form of morality. At least I hope you try to. As an Atheist where do you get your morality. It will differ from Atheist to Atheist.
But seriously. This should be as obvious as the nose on your face where I'm going. I'm well aware what Atheism is having once been one and doing this for a living now. But you all want to get mixed up on how I need to first understand Atheism; I'm trying to get you guys to quit playing that game and start asking and answer hard questions about life which you must answer to live. Where did I come from? What does life mean-if anything? What is truth if it exists? What is right and wrong if they exist? Where am I going?
So, seriously, please lets move away from the petty squabbling about what Atheism is and isn't and move onto how Atheism existentially impacts your daily living.
I hope you see my point. This is why I called wolfgang59's (who I've blocked from PMs to me since I'm sure he'll/she'll point that out, I'll go ahead and throw it out there) view of Atheism overly simplistic and untenable. It's a poor way to go through life.
If you don't get my meaning of how ideas have consequence then I'm honestly not sure how else to get through to you and how we can proceed on with this discussion.