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  1. Standard member DrKF
    incipit parodia
    29 Sep '10 11:39
    Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups on a new survey of religious knowledge, outperforming evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants and Catholics on questions about the core teachings, history and leading figures of major world religions...

    On questions about Christianity – including a battery of questions about the Bible – Mormons (7.9 out of 12 right on average) and white evangelical Protestants (7.3 correct on average) show the highest levels of knowledge. Jews and atheists/agnostics stand out for their knowledge of other world religions, including Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism; out of 11 such questions on the survey, Jews answer 7.9 correctly (nearly three better than the national average) and atheists/agnostics answer 7.5 correctly (2.5 better than the national average). Atheists/agnostics and Jews also do particularly well on questions about the role of religion in public life, including a question about what the U.S. Constitution says about religion.

    more inside the link:

    http://www.pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx
  2. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    29 Sep '10 19:38
    Interesting. Why not post in "Spirituality" Forum?
  3. 29 Sep '10 19:43 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    Interesting. Why not post in "Spirituality" Forum?
    because people's views and knowledge (and misconceptions) about religion play a rather important role in the political debate - especially in the debate about the first amendment.

    especially interesting was that only 36% correctly answered that public school teachers CAN offer a comparative religion course, and only 23% correctly answered that teachers CAN read from the Bible as an example of literature. (since these were true-false type questions, 50% of random parrots would've guessed the correct answer to these).
  4. 29 Sep '10 20:08
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    because people's views and knowledge (and misconceptions) about religion play a rather important role in the political debate - especially in the debate about the first amendment.

    especially interesting was that only 36% correctly answered that public school teachers CAN offer a comparative religion course, and only 23% correctly answered that teachers ...[text shortened]... rue-false type questions, 50% of random parrots would've guessed the correct answer to these).
    I read the article about this is in the NYT. Is this article different than any other article about polling people (like discovering that many people could not within a fifty year time period tell you when the Civil war was fought) and being surprised that they do not know facts which seemed simple?
  5. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    29 Sep '10 20:32
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    because people's views and knowledge (and misconceptions) about religion play a rather important role in the political debate - especially in the debate about the first amendment.

    especially interesting was that only 36% correctly answered that public school teachers CAN offer a comparative religion course, and only 23% correctly answered that teachers ...[text shortened]... rue-false type questions, 50% of random parrots would've guessed the correct answer to these).
    I would have gotten those wrong too.
  6. 29 Sep '10 23:56
    You answered 13 out of 15 questions correctly
    for a score of 87%.

    I'm not sure which two I got wrong, although I can guess about one of them.
  7. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    30 Sep '10 11:11
    Originally posted by pawnhandler
    You answered 13 out of 15 questions correctly
    for a score of 87%.

    I'm not sure which two I got wrong, although I can guess about one of them.
    ...now I know why it feels like I'm in the wrong forum......

    14/15 : 93%
  8. 30 Sep '10 13:08 / 1 edit
    Is it surprising that many have never examined their learned biases? This is true about all aspects of human society.

    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity. - Yeats

    This is true for the armchair revolutionaries, the couch-bound evangelists, and the bathroom political activists that litter our decaying landscape. I say over and over again when these fools blame everything on government that they ARE the government and they never get the point. American society was so fattened by the efforts of my father's generation that the need to respect and value knowledge atrophied. Most people between 30 and 50 in our little republic could be shot tomorrow and the only noticeable deficit would be the lack of consumption. This is all true regardless of education (as if that meant anything other than the readiness to prostitute oneself for cash.) Even the kids (which I actually have hope for) are so ignorant of the true basis of our culture that their heads provide a nest for reality TV (surely the most empty gesture ever made by humans.)

    Not with a bang but a whimper. - T. S. Eliot
  9. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    30 Sep '10 15:34 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by TerrierJack
    Is it surprising that many have never examined their learned biases? This is true about all aspects of human society. ...The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity. - Yeats...........Not with a bang but a whimper. - T. S. Eliot
    ....to what extent can anyone identify themselves objectively? to what extent can that objective snapshot describe a moment free of bias? Is bias a normative measure? Is there any absolute certainty that flows gratis per ones intuition of biaslessness?


    [all responses to the above will be stripsearched and water boarded until a coherent answer is found]
  10. 30 Sep '10 17:31
    Originally posted by kmax87
    ....to what extent can anyone identify themselves objectively? to what extent can that objective snapshot describe a moment free of bias? Is bias a normative measure? Is there any absolute certainty that flows gratis per ones intuition of biaslessness?


    [all responses to the above will be stripsearched and water boarded until a coherent answer is found]
    Ask a coherent question first.
  11. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    30 Sep '10 17:54
    Originally posted by TerrierJack
    Ask a coherent question first.
    i don't get foiled that easily.....anymore......
  12. 30 Sep '10 22:03
    Originally posted by quackquack
    I read the article about this is in the NYT. Is this article different than any other article about polling people (like discovering that many people could not within a fifty year time period tell you when the Civil war was fought) and being surprised that they do not know facts which seemed simple?
    No it's no different at all. People who have more education willscore better on these "tests" no matter whether they ask "who fought in the US War of Northern Agression?" or "Where is Vietnam on the map?" Religion is just another subject one can use to measure a person's knowledge (or lack thereof).
  13. 30 Sep '10 23:09
    Originally posted by kmax87
    i don't get foiled that easily.....anymore......
    Don't you mean tin-foiled?
  14. 30 Sep '10 23:40
    Originally posted by PinkFloyd
    No it's no different at all. People who have more education willscore better on these "tests" no matter whether they ask "who fought in the US War of Northern Agression?" or "Where is Vietnam on the map?" Religion is just another subject one can use to measure a person's knowledge (or lack thereof).
    Exactly. I've taken a number of religious courses and could thus answer questions that were related to those courses. I don't remember any sort of bias (someone else's post) in the questions; as I recall, they were simply the same sort of data as in your sample. It's either information you know or you don't, and much of it is based on your own interest. If it were a survey on dinosaurs or cars, I'd get zero or one correct.