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  1. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    17 Apr '11 21:07
    At the private Madani Girls' School, just off the Whitechapel
    Road, all the children are forced to wear the niqab. It is a fair
    bet that some of them do not want to. Ofsted, the education
    inspectorate, did not mention the compulsory veil-wearing in its
    report into the school, instead praising it for leaving pupils
    "well-prepared for life in a multicultural society" – even though
    the Madani School's own website states that it "opposes the
    lifestyle of the West".


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/8455884/Why-banning-the-veil-would-only-cover-up-the-real-problems-for-British-Muslims.html

    - - - -

    So, I may ask: why not taking their school, with all its staff, and
    move to Afghanistan? I've heard it is pretty un-Western there.
  2. 17 Apr '11 21:12
    telegraph
  3. 17 Apr '11 21:15
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    telegraph
    What's that supposed to mean?
    Is the photo and the article a fake?
    What?
  4. 17 Apr '11 21:18
    Originally posted by Sam The Sham
    What's that supposed to mean?
    Is the photo and the article a fake?
    What?
    Well, unless Seitse can come up with a real source I'm not going to bother to read the story. A Telegraph article has about as much value as a Fox News article.
  5. 17 Apr '11 21:18
    Originally posted by Sam The Sham
    What's that supposed to mean?
    Is the photo and the article a fake?
    What?
    I'm guessing the Telegraph is the FOX News of the UK.
  6. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    17 Apr '11 21:22
    Oh, I am sorry, I should read the pamphlets of the PC establishment.

    Is there a list of approved reads which I could check?
  7. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    17 Apr '11 21:22 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, unless Seitse can come up with a real source I'm not going to bother to read the story. A Telegraph article has about as much value as a Fox News article.
    http://www.madani-school.co.uk/

    ...

    But of course you won't read it, because it is politically incorrect
    to question those sucking up from the Western breast while
    condemning it.
  8. Standard member Seitse
    Doug Stanhope
    17 Apr '11 21:24
    Also, unless The Man prohibits you from doing it
    because it is politically incorrect, I recommend
    checking the list here and then go through their
    websites:

    http://www.ams-uk.org/
  9. 17 Apr '11 21:27
    Originally posted by Seitse
    http://www.madani-school.co.uk/

    ...

    But of course you won't read it, because it is politically incorrect
    to question those sucking up from the Western breast while
    condemning it.
    The website is down.

    Anyway, from your excerpt I gather that this is a private school. Does it do anything illegal? If so, then they should be prosecuted. If not, what do you think the UK government ought to do?
  10. 17 Apr '11 21:31
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    The website is down.

    what do you think the UK government ought to do?
    Tell them to take their private school back to Muhammed-land and peddle that anti-western garbage there.
  11. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    17 Apr '11 21:41
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    The website is down.

    Anyway, from your excerpt I gather that this is a private school. Does it do anything illegal? If so, then they should be prosecuted. If not, what do you think the UK government ought to do?
    Falling back on legality is a cop-out. The government can make it illegal.

    I would certainly approve of not recognizing the degrees of these schools. Same for any school that had in their program that they oppose the "Islamic lifestyle" or any other xenophobic mission on their program.

    Of course, the story may be inaccurate, the Torygraph being what it is. We can still discuss the hypothetical scenario.
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    17 Apr '11 22:21
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Falling back on legality is a cop-out. The government can make it illegal.

    I would certainly approve of not recognizing the degrees of these schools. Same for any school that had in their program that they oppose the "Islamic lifestyle" or any other xenophobic mission on their program.

    Of course, the story may be inaccurate, the Torygraph being what it is. We can still discuss the hypothetical scenario.
    The school was inspected on December 13, 2010 by the Office of Standards in Education, Children's Services and Skills (a government agency) which found:

    The school has made good progress and now meets all regulatory requirements.

    http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxedu_reports/download/(id)/128769/(as)/100982_366279.pdf
  13. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    17 Apr '11 22:25
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    The school was inspected on December 13, 2010 by the Office of Standards in Education, Children's Services and Skills (a government agency) which found:

    The school has made good progress and now meets all regulatory requirements.

    http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/oxedu_reports/download/(id)/128769/(as)/100982_366279.pdf
    That was mentioned in the article.
  14. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    17 Apr '11 22:31 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    The website is down.

    Anyway, from your excerpt I gather that this is a private school. Does it do anything illegal? If so, then they should be prosecuted. If not, what do you think the UK government ought to do?
    This website is up and mostly complete: http://www.madani-school.co.uk/index.php?on=home

    It seems like a strict religious school but I don't see anything particulary objectionable about it (assuming you want your child to be taught in an Islamic school which also meets required educational standards).

    EDIT: I can't find any statement approximating that the school or its staff: "opposes the
    lifestyle of the West".
  15. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    17 Apr '11 22:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    This website is up and mostly complete: http://www.madani-school.co.uk/index.php?on=home

    It seems like a strict religious school but I don't see anything particulary objectionable about it (assuming you want your child to be taught in an Islamic school which also meets required educational standards).

    EDIT: I can't find any statement approximating that the school or its staff: "opposes the
    lifestyle of the West".
    I agree.

    I also don't find the quote that is mention in the Torygraph (unsurprisingly).