1. Standard memberStarValleyWy
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    18 Jan '10 23:102 edits
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    In two different polls almost a third of everyone believed the healthcare bill contained "death panels."

    Glen Beck claimed the healthcare bill contained provisions to provide medical insurance to dogs. (no BS!). How many millions of Americans listen to him and take him seriously?

    Sad indeed.
    While I did listen to the "spoof" that Beck did on dogs and health care clinics, I can say that I listen to Beck and I take him seriously.

    Until he says something that is obviously a lie, why should I not believe him?

    All he has said is that Obama and his cronies are communists and/or socialists.

    I took Obama's word for it much earlier than I ever took Becks word for it, when Obama talked about the crowd that he sought out and wanted to be with as being such. Is it wrong to believe the man? Buy and read his books. He makes no effort to hide the obvious.

    I see that Beck is one of the few who have managed to get out of the flock and at least try to figure out what becoming a communist or socialist nation will entail.

    The difference between me and Beck is that I see it all as a grand pattern built into the "see-through fabric" of human kinds thin garment of "civilization" that insists on repeating, over-and-over, ideas such as socialism and communism; these have always failed and always will fail. He sees it as a crusade to educate the sheep. So while he would say that people need to "wake up", I say that there is no chance of that ever happening, so we might as well relax and enjoy the insanity. Again.
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    18 Jan '10 23:54
    Originally posted by StarValleyWy
    While I did listen to the "spoof" that Beck did on dogs and health care clinics, I can say that I listen to Beck and I take him seriously.

    Until he says something that is obviously a lie, why should I not believe him?

    All he has said is that Obama and his cronies are communists and/or socialists.

    I took Obama's word for it much earlier than I e ...[text shortened]... chance of that ever happening, so we might as well relax and enjoy the insanity. Again.
    While I did listen to the "spoof" that Beck did on dogs and health care clinics, I can say that I listen to Beck and I take him seriously.

    You do? Wow. Have fun with that.

    Until he says something that is obviously a lie, why should I not believe him?

    Because so much of what he says are not only lies, they're absolutely absurd. At the very least you should view his claims with skepticism.

    All he has said is that Obama and his cronies are communists and/or socialists.

    If you completely ignore the definition of Communism and Socialism perhaps. But why bother yourself with learning about those things when you can mindlessly repeat Rush, Beck and Hannity.

    I took Obama's word for it much earlier than I ever took Becks word for it, when Obama talked about the crowd that he sought out and wanted to be with as being such. Is it wrong to believe the man? Buy and read his books. He makes no effort to hide the obvious.

    Do you have anything besides vague, generalized talking points? Something specific perhaps? You're not actually expecting me to believe you bought and read his books, are you? Let me guess. You had a few sentences pulled out of context for you and now you're qualified to write a book review.
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    19 Jan '10 05:01
    Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
    In two different polls almost a third of everyone believed the healthcare bill contained "death panels."

    Glen Beck claimed the healthcare bill contained provisions to provide medical insurance to dogs. (no BS!). How many millions of Americans listen to him and take him seriously?

    Sad indeed.
    Agreed.
    It's a sad day when I'm the most informed in a conversation about current politics. LOL Most people around here just don't care enough to seek out any info at all.
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    19 Jan '10 14:452 edits
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    "[b]Bottom Line

    Public support for passing healthcare reform legislation this year is marginally higher than it was three months ago, but still doesn't rise to majority level. Thus, neither party in Washington can claim that advancing or, alternatively, defeating the legislation represents the will of the people[ cting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls."
    [/b]USArmyParatrooper said that more were in favor than against -- 49-46.
    even though 49% falls short of a "majority", the statement UAP said was still correct.

    But I really don't care about this. The poll I want to see is the one measuring what percentage of Americans have the slightest clue about what's actually in the bill?

    I suspect the answer would be something less than 5% - but who knows? - nobody polls people on what they actually know about a given issue. But if I am right and almost no one knows what's in the bill, does it really matter how many Americans favor or oppose it?
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