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  1. Standard memberLundos
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    06 Sep '18 08:311 edit
    This opinion piece is going round the world:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

    While most of the people regularly following politics know that Trump is amoral and not fit to lead, this sets a very bad precedent. Who elected these 'adults' that are deciding which policies to follow? They have no mandate from the people. And trying to justify anonymously is just pathetic.

    Resign and state your case(s) with your names behind it or argue it out with Trump and let the best argument win. Don't hide. Otherwise it's just a coup d'etat.
  2. Subscribermoonbus
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    06 Sep '18 09:14
    Truth or fake news, there will certainly be a witch hunt after that story broke. I predict some high-level 'exits' from the Trump White House staff, in the next few weeks.
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    06 Sep '18 09:18
    Originally posted by @lundos
    This opinion piece is going round the world:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

    While most of the people regularly following politics know that Trump is amoral and not fit to lead, this sets a very bad precedent. Who elected these 'adults' that are deciding which policies to follow? They have no mandate ...[text shortened]... it out with Trump and let the best argument win. Don't hide. Otherwise it's just a coup d'etat.
    It's just political pragmatism.
    He's still a beneficial "moron" to those who hope to continue slopping gravy from his swampy-trough.

    The parasites will continue to keep the "host" alive as they continue sucking the blood from our children's futures.
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    06 Sep '18 10:15
    Originally posted by @lundos
    This opinion piece is going round the world:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

    While most of the people regularly following politics know that Trump is amoral and not fit to lead, this sets a very bad precedent. Who elected these 'adults' that are deciding which policies to follow? They have no mandate ...[text shortened]... it out with Trump and let the best argument win. Don't hide. Otherwise it's just a coup d'etat.
    Naive flaremongering nonsense.

    This type of political skulduggery goes on all the time in all governments. And in business for that matter. Publishing it in a newspaper doesn’t make it new or lend it the power and gravitas of a “coup”.

    If Trump cannot surround himself with people who support him then who gives a shlt; let him fail and the sooner the better.
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    06 Sep '18 10:16
    Originally posted by @wolfe63
    It's just political pragmatism.
    He's still a beneficial "moron" to those who hope to continue slopping gravy from his swampy-trough.

    The parasites will continue to keep the "host" alive as they continue sucking the blood from our children's futures.
    Poetic!!
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    06 Sep '18 11:11
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    Truth or fake news, there will certainly be a witch hunt after that story broke. I predict some high-level 'exits' from the Trump White House staff, in the next few weeks.
    This could easiyl be the ulterior motif of the Piece. Nobody knows IF a real "Senior" member of the government wrote it.
  7. Subscribermoonbus
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    06 Sep '18 11:11
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Naive flaremongering nonsense.

    This type of political skulduggery goes on all the time in all governments. And in business for that matter. Publishing it in a newspaper doesn’t make it new or lend it the power and gravitas of a “coup”.

    If Trump cannot surround himself with people who support him then who gives a shlt; let him fail and the sooner the better.
    As you say, this is nothing new, and calling it a "coup" is way overboard. As Reagan was slipping into dementia, Nancy and the WH staff were running the executive branch. Part of the resilience of the American system of government is due to the separation of powers, the "checks and balances," which effectively means that the system can keep functioning even if an incompetent fool gets into a position of power. Rue the day when a whole nation depends on one man alone!
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    06 Sep '18 11:151 edit
    Originally posted by @ponderable
    This could easiyl be the ulterior motif of the Piece. Nobody knows IF a real "Senior" member of the government wrote it.
    Yes, it could be a ruse to provoke The Donald into capsizing his own ship in a mad fury to find and chastize a 'culprit.'
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    06 Sep '18 11:34
    Originally posted by @lundos
    This opinion piece is going round the world:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

    While most of the people regularly following politics know that Trump is amoral and not fit to lead, this sets a very bad precedent. Who elected these 'adults' that are deciding which policies to follow? They have no mandate ...[text shortened]... it out with Trump and let the best argument win. Don't hide. Otherwise it's just a coup d'etat.
    you blindly follow liberal tactics...what part of anonymous do you not understand?

    As the noose tightens around the deep state, I can see even more desperation in their tactics forthcoming. They rely on fools for their support.
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    06 Sep '18 11:59
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    Part of the resilience of the American system of government is due to the separation of powers, the "checks and balances," which effectively means that the system can keep functioning even if an incompetent fool gets into a position of power.
    Yes and let's hope it stays resilient.
    Trump has indicated his disdain for the
    system many times and admires dictators.
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    06 Sep '18 12:52
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    you blindly follow liberal tactics...what part of anonymous do you not understand?

    As the noose tightens around the deep state, I can see even more desperation in their tactics forthcoming. They rely on fools for their support.
    The deep state... listen to yourself.
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    06 Sep '18 12:56
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    The deep state... listen to yourself.
    An impossible task.
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    06 Sep '18 13:591 edit
    Again, link to the full text:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

    It's a good read.
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    06 Sep '18 14:381 edit
    There has clearly been a miscarriage in democracy.
    The checks and balances may seem undemocratic.
    But they are necessary at times like this.

    For those who are pointing the finger at the liberals, again, this appears to be the GOP behind this.

    But hey !! Look on the bright side.
    Mike "lodestar" Pence finally came out and said something !! 😆
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    06 Sep '18 15:001 edit
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Yes and let's hope it stays resilient.
    Trump has indicated his disdain for the
    system many times and admires dictators.
    The POTUS power is limited; he can't wave his hand and change the system.

    Someone did say that he had the authority to fire nukes...is that true? And even if it is what happens if the computer says "no" ?
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