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    06 Sep '18 15:49
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    The deep state... listen to yourself.
    as Clinton said...if that b a stard wins we all hang.
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    06 Sep '18 16:582 edits
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    There has clearly been a miscarriage in democracy.
    The checks and balances may seem undemocratic.
    But they are necessary at times like this.

    For those who are pointing the finger at the liberals, again, this appears to be the GOP behind this.

    But hey !! Look on the bright side.
    Mike "lodestar" Pence finally came out and said something !! 😆
    The checks and balances are usually held to function among the three branches of government but, in this case, they need to within the Oval Office.

    A POTUS who publishes midnight rants and typos on twitter is a loose cannon. May cooler, saner heads prevail.
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    06 Sep '18 17:39
    Trump's insane response:

    If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!”

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2018/09/06/trump-alone-301738
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    06 Sep '18 18:02
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Trump's insane response:

    If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!”

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2018/09/06/trump-alone-301738
    Think "six-year old child stamping his foot because his mother told him to clean up his room and won't let him have a cookie before dinner" and you're right on target.
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    06 Sep '18 19:35
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    The POTUS power is limited; he can't wave his hand and change the system.

    Someone did say that he had the authority to fire nukes...is that true? And even if it is what happens if the computer says "no" ?
    Yes, it appears Trump has the power to launch a nuclear weapon but there is a chain of command that could stop his order if Trump goes crazy and decides to launch a nuclear weapon launch instead of a tweet and there is no apparent imminent danger to the country. That said, it is scary to know Trump has this sort of power. Let's face it, many long term Republicans, conservatives find Trump unsuited for his role.

    https://www.npr.org/2017/10/03/555266383/why-president-trump-has-exclusive-authority-to-order-a-nuclear-strike
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/heres-goes-presidents-decision-launch-nuclear-weapons
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    06 Sep '18 23:36
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    you blindly follow liberal tactics...what part of anonymous do you not understand?

    As the noose tightens around the deep state, I can see even more desperation in their tactics forthcoming. They rely on fools for their support.
    This makes sense only if, like the rest of us, you realize the true "deep state" IS this administration.
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    07 Sep '18 02:50
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    as Clinton said...if that b a stard wins we all hang.
    Mhhheeeehhh
    Mhhheeeeehhhh

    Sheeple.
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    07 Sep '18 04:40
    Not new.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/woodrow-wilson-stroke
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    07 Sep '18 04:52
    Originally posted by @js357
    Not new.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/woodrow-wilson-stroke
    Isn't there a qualitative difference between a President who obviously competent develops health problems rendering him unfit for office (like Wilson and possibly Reagan) and someone like Trump who is clearly unfit to perform the duties of his office?
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    07 Sep '18 05:03
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Isn't there a qualitative difference between a President who obviously competent develops health problems rendering him unfit for office (like Wilson and possibly Reagan) and someone like Trump who is clearly unfit to perform the duties of his office?
    Yes, there is a qualitative difference between a president who once was competent, and one who never was. The issue here is that in the cases of Wilson and Reagan, the administration took over tasks which the incapacitated presidents could no longer perform but to which they would probably have consented if they had known about it, whereas in the case of Trump (if the claim in the NYT article is true), he does not consent to others within his administration taking over tasks (because he thinks he is competent.
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    07 Sep '18 11:44
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Isn't there a qualitative difference between a President who obviously competent develops health problems rendering him unfit for office (like Wilson and possibly Reagan) and someone like Trump who is clearly unfit to perform the duties of his office?
    any time now...LMFAO!
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    07 Sep '18 11:45
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    Trump's insane response:

    If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!”

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2018/09/06/trump-alone-301738
    might of thought you and sluzy would side with a snitch...right snitch?
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    07 Sep '18 12:05
    Maybe a conspiracy theorist might say that this op-ed was manufactured by the WH ??
    To mobilize the Trump base with FOX Propaganda Network leading the way ??
    Or to distract from the other maladies afflicting the White House ??
    Or keeping the media running around chasing their tail.

    You know .....
    "I'm Donald Trump and I approve this fiasco !!" 😛

    But I think Mueller is keeping his eye on the ball !!
    And maybe he is getting warmer ? 🙂
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    07 Sep '18 12:40
    A conspiracy theorist would say that the 'Trump' in the WH isn't the real Trump; the real Trump was kidnapped on one of his many visits to Russia, he's being fattened up on caviar in a Dacha and held incommunicado. The 'Trump' in the WH is a doppelganger, a Putin-puppet. That's why Melania won't hold hands with him in public; she knows …

    The WH staff know, too; that's why they are covering for him. Can't let on that the real deep state is Moscow...
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    07 Sep '18 14:033 edits
    Originally posted by @lundos
    This opinion piece is going round the world:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

    While most of the people regularly following politics know that Trump is amoral and not fit to lead, this sets a very bad precedent. Who elected these 'adults' that are deciding which policies to follow? They have no mandate ...[text shortened]... it out with Trump and let the best argument win. Don't hide. Otherwise it's just a coup d'etat.
    One point brought up last night by Steven Cobert on his late night TV show: If there is this group secretly guiding the POTUS by hiding docs and such, where a week later his memory being such that he would have forgotten all about the paper he was supposed to sign and such, WHY WOULD THEY MAKE SUCH KNOWLEDGE PUBLIC? It would seem then like doing such in Stalin's days, where in that case there would be 25 murders and a new bunch installed from such a paranoid dictator.

    Of course in our case they wouldn't be simply offed by an assassin but fired and replaced by people he thought he could trust which in Trump's case would be more like just his own adult children so he will be in a world of hurt regardless of who gets fired.

    So does this Op ed accomplish anything other than a big splash on Broadway other than causing the mental state of Trump to become even more obvious?
    One could make the case that they would be prepping the next set of cabinet members so they would be pre-programmed to behave the same way but more in secret.

    He does seem to be losing it, for instance at a rally in Montana he tried to say the word anonymous and said it twice but coming out both times sounding like anonyish that some people said sounds like 'ominous' and for the first time ever in American presidential history publicly talks about impeachment in open forums like these rally events he loves to attend where he only talks about himself and not actually getting around to saying much about why he is in the rally in the first place, which is supposed to be to support a like minded candidate for the House or Senate. But that is how Narcissists operate which is no big surprise.
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