US political prisoners & the constitution

Amendment VI

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense."

Some of the Jan 6th protesters did not get a speedy trial.
Isn't that a violation of the 6th amendment?

Amendment VIII

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aclu-capitol-rioters-in-solitary-confinement

Is solitary confinement for Jan. 6 riot participants a violation of the 8th amendment?

@metal-brain said
Amendment VI

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him ...[text shortened]... onfinement

Is solitary confinement for Jan. 6 riot participants a violation of the 8th amendment?

@metal-brain said
Amendment VI

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him ...[text shortened]... onfinement

Is solitary confinement for Jan. 6 riot participants a violation of the 8th amendment?

@shavixmir said
Why are they in solitary confinement?

“Speedy” isn’t SMART enough to be useful. 5 years could be deemed speedy over 20 years.

Your bail system sucks. Basically, if you have enough money you’re less of a risk to society?
You should only be imprisoned before trial if you’re a flight risk or a risk to society. And in both cases you shouldn’t get bloody bail anyways.
...[text shortened]... rown at you.
Grow up.
If you’re not willing to get burnt, don’t set a fire in the bloody kitchen.

@metal-brain said
I was not referring to bail. I was referring to this:
"nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted".

Who attempted to overthrow the government? It was a protest which is also supposed to be protected under the 1st amendment. It is only those who were not peaceful protesters that broke the law. Entering the capitol building is not an insurrection, especially if they w ...[text shortened]... n-induced truth effect manipulating your mind.

https://psychology-spot.com/illusory-truth-effect/

@shavixmir said
Uhuh.

Listen 💩4🧠, whether what you believe is true or not (it’s not, by the way, it’s right-wing propaganda), if the establishment believes you are attacking it, what do you think the establishment will do?

There you go.
You invade a political building, you’re gonna get screwed. Anyone with half a braincell comprehends this. You want to play with fire… put it out completely… or get burnt.

And their idiocy roasted them fair and squarely.

@wajoma said
It's to torture them into 'confessing'.

And the men that have stood their ground are heroes.

@metal-brain said
Amendment VI

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him ...[text shortened]... onfinement

Is solitary confinement for Jan. 6 riot participants a violation of the 8th amendment?

@metal-brain said
Not everyone invaded the building. The CP let people in with a warm welcome. That is not an invasion.

You are digressing into myths that are irrelevant. I asked if it violated the constitution. You hoping they get punished has nothing to do with the constitution. All you seem to be saying is that they should be punished despite the constitution. That is not what this ...[text shortened]... is about.

I already know you are an authoritarian like Stalin. You don't need to brag about it.

@Metal-Brain
So you are bitching about the fact that there were and are HUNDREDS of arrests which takes time to run through the courts.

You really are a POS pathetic anti American traitor and you really need to move to Moscow where you will be greeted as a hero.
You really want to rewrite history so the coup attempt would be seen by our children as just another peaceful demonstration of political will.
If they had found either Pence or Pelosi they would have killed them both.
And Pelosi was not safe in her own house and ALL of this is 100% on the hands of Trump.

So stick you conspiracy theory up your pathetic ass.

It was a COUP attempt, and the fact there were fake electors was just another aspect of the many pronged plot of the coup. It wasn't JUST those thousands of insurrectionists, there are literally hundreds of house and senate members fully involved with the coup.

@metal-brain said
Amendment VI

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him ...[text shortened]... onfinement

Is solitary confinement for Jan. 6 riot participants a violation of the 8th amendment?

@no1marauder said
These people aren't "political prisoners". They are charged with crimes that have no relation to politics like trespassing, assaulting police officers and the like.

All had chances to make speedy trial motions and have those motions adjudicated by the courts. Additionally those convicted can make such claims on appeal.

@no1marauder said
These people aren't "political prisoners". They are charged with crimes that have no relation to politics like trespassing, assaulting police officers and the like.

All had chances to make speedy trial motions and have those motions adjudicated by the courts. Additionally those convicted can make such claims on appeal.

@metal-brain said
"All had chances to make speedy trial motions and have those motions adjudicated by the courts."

What is your source of information?

@no1marauder said
What is the source of yours? A year and half old Washington Examiner article?

But here's my source: Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure sec. 208 https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part2/chapter208&edition=prelim