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  1. the forest
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    another failure of the left.
  2. Behind the scenes
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    @mister-moggy

    Little bumper sticker soundbites like this have always dazzled me.

    By the way, I'm impressed with your rating. After 3 years you're still above 600 - Wow!

    🙂
  3. the forest
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    @mchill

    i am to busy fleeing venezuela to find food and medicine to play chess at internet cafes in brasil.
  4. Germany
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    21 Jan '19 16:09
    Nazi Germany.

    Another failure of the right.

    See how far this kind of insightful thinking gets you?

    Try this template instead:

    [Failed policy X]

    Another failure of [policy X], because of reasons [A], [B], ...
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    @mister-moggy said
    another failure of the left.
    Venezuela is a direct result of the capitalistic oppression around the globe. The Bourgeoisie have kept the proletariat down so long they now are eating out of garbage cans.

    The cause? Global warming, of course, due to the exploitation of natural resources, all thanks to Trump.

    Next.
  6. the forest
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    21 Jan '19 23:04
    nazis are the "right"? you have watched too many hollywood movies. it was a left socialst albiet national organization competing with the international communists for the soul of germany. you must think that those who fought the reds were all on the right. the socialists outside the comitern fought the reds for their own personal agenda. nazism is the "NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY OF GERMANY;"
  7. Standard memberDeepThought
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    @mister-moggy said
    nazis are the "right"? you have watched too many hollywood movies. it was a left socialst albiet national organization competing with the international communists for the soul of germany. you must think that those who fought the reds were all on the right. the socialists outside the comitern fought the reds for their own personal agenda. nazism is the "NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY OF GERMANY;"
    As a matter of fact it was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party. You've been listening to too many conservative commentators identifying statism with socialism. The Nazi Party were right wing.
  8. Germany
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    @mister-moggy said
    nazis are the "right"? you have watched too many hollywood movies. it was a left socialst albiet national organization competing with the international communists for the soul of germany. you must think that those who fought the reds were all on the right. the socialists outside the comitern fought the reds for their own personal agenda. nazism is the "NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY OF GERMANY;"
    I don't think the left/right-dichotomy is very useful, but if you think the Nazi party was "socialist" I suggest you grab a history book and start catching up on some of the gaps left in your high school education.
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    @mister-moggy said
    nazis are the "right"? you have watched too many hollywood movies. it was a left socialst albiet national organization competing with the international communists for the soul of germany. you must think that those who fought the reds were all on the right. the socialists outside the comitern fought the reds for their own personal agenda. nazism is the "NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY OF GERMANY;"
    Have you been talking to whodey? He gets this wrong all the time, too.

    The Nazis were fascists, and were solidly on the right and authoritarian. They had nothing to do with the left or socialism.
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    @whodey said
    Venezuela is a direct result of the capitalistic oppression around the globe. The Bourgeoisie have kept the proletariat down so long they now are eating out of garbage cans.

    The cause? Global warming, of course, due to the exploitation of natural resources, all thanks to Trump.

    Next.
    whodey, the master of hyperbole.
  11. SubscriberSuzianne
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    @mchill said
    @mister-moggy

    Little bumper sticker soundbites like this have always dazzled me.

    By the way, I'm impressed with your rating. After 3 years you're still above 600 - Wow!

    🙂
    I like "little Trumper sticker soundbytes" better. 🙂
  12. the forest
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    @suzianne said
    Have you been talking to whodey? He gets this wrong all the time, too.

    The Nazis were fascists, and were solidly on the right and authoritarian. They had nothing to do with the left or socialism.
    In statement after statement, Hitler could not be clearer about his socialist commitments. He said, for example, in a 1927 speech, “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
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    @mister-moggy said
    nazis are the "right"? you have watched too many hollywood movies. it was a left socialst albiet national organization competing with the international communists for the soul of germany. you must think that those who fought the reds were all on the right. the socialists outside the comitern fought the reds for their own personal agenda. nazism is the "NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY OF GERMANY;"
    Yea, they were nationalists trying to take over the world.

    Sounds like globalism tom me, and is what we have now in Progressive land.
  14. Germany
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    @mister-moggy said
    In statement after statement, Hitler could not be clearer about his socialist commitments. He said, for example, in a 1927 speech, “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
    That's not a quote from Hitler, it's a 1926 quote from Gregor Strasser. Strasser was assassinated in 1934 during the Night of the Long Knives.
  15. the forest
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    to quote adolf hitler on the socialism of the nazi aim.

    "Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."

    Interview with George Sylvester Viereck, 1923
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