Voting machines are NOT flipping votes. Sacks full of Trump votes are NOT being destroyed. Busloads of illegal aliens are NOT queue jumping to vote. Stop getting your news from twitter! twitter is a hotbed of Russian disinformation designed to sow distrust in an election system which is functioning extremely well.
Every apparent instance of a voting machine flipping a vote was actually "error 13" (the human touching the screen in the wrong place) and was corrected by a polling station assistant immediately.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-misinformation-houston-rally-confrontation-99af1f80eb43d31966cae8e68dbc3415
Now, get out and vote! If you don't vote, you have no right to complain.
@moonbus saidYou are spreading misinformation.
Voting machines are NOT flipping votes. Sacks full of Trump votes are NOT being destroyed. Busloads of illegal aliens are NOT queue jumping to vote. Stop getting your news from twitter! twitter is a hotbed of Russian disinformation designed to sow distrust in an election system which is functioning extremely well.
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Now, get out and vote! If you don't vote, you have no right to complain.
In Antrim county Michigan some woman said she made a mistake which caused votes to flip from Trump to Biden. She claimed she corrected the mistake right away, but that is an obvious lie. If you read the old website reports from the Detroit paper you will see it was first reported that it was caused by a computer "glitch".
It must have taken some time to figure out what happened. They didn't even know it was not a computer glitch. It took some time for the story to be corrected and called human error. And that is why some people think the human error story is a lie.
Why was it reported it was caused by a computer glitch instead of human error at first?
@Metal-Brain saidhttps://time.com/6128812/the-steal-antrim-county-michigan/
You are spreading misinformation.
In Antrim county Michigan some woman said she made a mistake which caused votes to flip from Trump to Biden. She claimed she corrected the mistake right away, but that is an obvious lie. If you read the old website reports from the Detroit paper you will see it was first reported that it was caused by a computer "glitch".
It must ...[text shortened]... s a lie.
Why was it reported it was caused by a computer glitch instead of human error at first?
Sheryl Guy. Trump supporter. She made a completely understandable error in reporting. There was not a problem in the votes per se.
"When she added that last-minute candidate for village trustee to the ballots, she should have updated the counting machines with the new parameters. But she hadn’t. So when the numbers started rolling in, they dropped into the wrong columns. A little over two thousand Trump votes had been shifted to Biden’s column. Her error."
"Then when she had tried to fix the issue, entering the correct numbers directly into the central computer, she hadn’t zeroed out the mistaken ones. So she had published a stack of both wrong and right totals."
“It’s a horrible mistake,” she told the county’s attorneys. “I own it.” She said the same to people who called the office to complain, to her neighbors, to the county commissioners."
@spruce112358
moonbus said this:
"Every apparent instance of a voting machine flipping a vote was actually "error 13" (the human touching the screen in the wrong place) and was corrected by a polling station assistant immediately."
Thank you for helping me prove that is misinformation.
None of us knows if it really was a failure to update software that was the reason. Maybe software was updated just fine to flip votes and then they had to change the software to something not corrupted to hide what they had done. Nobody really knows except the software designers and they are not talking. Good luck trying to access the software to examine it. It is top secret. They say they cannot let anyone see it or they could use it to corrupt the count!
Do you understand why the UK prohibits using voting machines? They do not allow them for damn good reason. I have no idea why failure to update software would flip votes like that. Do you? Nobody will explain it so it makes any sense. Hence the reason voting machines are so suspect. Why does it need a software update at all? That is a deep flaw in itself.
I find that most people that claim voting machines are not flawed have a faith based opinion on it. There is very good reason some European countries banned them. If a voting machine needs a software update it is probably to rig the vote numbers.
@Metal-Brain saidThe machines worked fine. The votes were tallied fine.
@spruce112358
moonbus said this:
"Every apparent instance of a voting machine flipping a vote was actually "error 13" (the human touching the screen in the wrong place) and was corrected by a polling station assistant immediately."
Thank you for helping me prove that is misinformation.
None of us knows if it really was a failure to update software that was the r ...[text shortened]... ies banned them. If a voting machine needs a software update it is probably to rig the vote numbers.
The clerk (who twice voted for Trump; so why would she try to sabotage him?) somehow got the equivalent of her spreadsheet columns mixed up and so reported an error.
You are munching on a nothingburger, @Metal-Brain.
@vivify saidquote:
But loads of Kamala votes are.
Voters overall are more likely to believe that votes in the 2024 presidential election will be counted accurately by their local election officials or in their state than nationwide, according to the poll. About 6 in 10 voters have “a great deal” or “quite a bit” of confidence that votes in the 2024 presidential election will be counted accurately by their local election officials or in their state, while about half say this about votes counted nationwide.
About one-quarter in each case have “a moderate amount” of confidence. About 3 in 10 say they have “only a little” or no confidence in the nationwide count, while fewer say that about the tally in their state or by local officials.
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https://apnews.com/article/poll-election-2024-voting-ballots-conspiracy-theories-51d67f8c0ceb3921b6cc9c1a61464f13
They can't all be right. The idea that local vote tallies are correct, but they aren't in the next state, cannot be right, for every state. It's significant that trust in the tallies splits along partisan lines, and one disgruntled loser is the sole reason for this.
@moonbus saidI meant instances like in Washington where the mail-in vote box was set on fire, the postal worker from Florida, etc.
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Voters overall are more likely to believe that votes in the 2024 presidential election will be counted accurately by their local election officials or in their state than nationwide, according to the poll. About 6 in 10 voters have “a great deal” or “quite a bit” of confidence that votes in the 2024 presidential election will be counted accurately by their local ele ...[text shortened]... t in the tallies splits along partisan lines, and one disgruntled loser is the sole reason for this.
No one is stealing Trump votes but Republicans are definitely stealing Kamala's.
In Georgia, Republicans enacted a rule requiring hand-counts of all ballots, as well as a separate rule to delay certifying votes due to undefined "irregularities". Both of these were blocked by a court but Republicans are appealing this decision. It's unlikely to be overturned but the efforts to steal Kamala's votes have already begun.
@vivify
Oh, yes, I see what you mean. The honest members of the traditional GOP have acknowledged that their voter base has shrunk as a proportion of the total population and that they cannot win a fair election, so they have engaged in a concerted attempt to modify voting laws and procedures to continue in power as a minority party. It does not occur to them to modify their policies to adjust to changed demographics. Furthermore, assimilating the Tea Party radicals was a bad move for them.
@spruce112358 saidYou don't know that. Did you examine the software code? You cannot even explain why a voting machine needs a software update to get the tally right.
The machines worked fine. The votes were tallied fine.
The clerk (who twice voted for Trump; so why would she try to sabotage him?) somehow got the equivalent of her spreadsheet columns mixed up and so reported an error.
You are munching on a nothingburger, @Metal-Brain.
I don't know what woman you are talking about. I was talking about Antrim County MI. She did not get her spreadsheet columns mixed up. After they called it a computer glitch at first they later reported that it happened because nobody updated the software.
You need to get your story straight.
@moonbus saidWhy did the UK ban voting machines in that country. The Netherlands does not use them either according to Shav.
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Voters overall are more likely to believe that votes in the 2024 presidential election will be counted accurately by their local election officials or in their state than nationwide, according to the poll. About 6 in 10 voters have “a great deal” or “quite a bit” of confidence that votes in the 2024 presidential election will be counted accurately by their local ele ...[text shortened]... t in the tallies splits along partisan lines, and one disgruntled loser is the sole reason for this.
Why does a voting machine need a software update?
@Metal-Brain saidMy story is straight. This is the link.
You don't know that. Did you examine the software code? You cannot even explain why a voting machine needs a software update to get the tally right.
I don't know what woman you are talking about. I was talking about Antrim County MI. She did not get her spreadsheet columns mixed up. After they called it a computer glitch at first they later reported that it happened because nobody updated the software.
You need to get your story straight.
https://time.com/6128812/the-steal-antrim-county-michigan/
They described what happened in the code. She made a change in a DIFFERENT race: "When she added that last-minute candidate for village trustee to the ballots, she should have updated the counting machines with the new parameters. But she hadn’t."
I'm using the analogy of when you have a spreadsheet and you add a cell, but you forget to move other things and then everything gets off by 1 column. It's easy enough for anyone who uses spreadsheets to understand.
Bottom line: there was nothing nefarious and there were enough checks on the system that it was very quickly caught and corrected.
There was ABSOLUTELY no Democrat conspiracy to steal votes in Antrim County or anywhere else.
@spruce112358 saidYou changed your story.
My story is straight. This is the link.
https://time.com/6128812/the-steal-antrim-county-michigan/
They described what happened in the code. She made a change in a DIFFERENT race: "When she added that last-minute candidate for village trustee to the ballots, she should have updated the counting machines with the new parameters. But she hadn’t."
I'm using the an ...[text shortened]... ed.
There was ABSOLUTELY no Democrat conspiracy to steal votes in Antrim County or anywhere else.
"she should have updated the counting machines with the new parameters. But she hadn’t."
That is exactly what I said. Now you finally have your story right. You were spreading misinformation.
@spruce112358
"Bottom line: there was nothing nefarious and there were enough checks on the system that it was very quickly caught and corrected."
It was not caught quickly. Stop lying!
And you don't know enough about voting machines to know nothing nefarious results from voting machines. You cannot even tell me why it needed a software update!
Your opinion on this is faith based.
@Metal-Brain saidLOL. It was caught between 5:00am and getting breakfast. I don't know how you define 'quickly' but...
@spruce112358
It was not caught quickly.
"They finished just before 5:00 a.m., in total exhaustion. [Sheryl] Guy had spent hour after hour peering at the columns and rows and, by the end, was too tired to step back, figuratively, and consider a broader view of the election. She knew she, a Republican, had won reelection as county clerk because she ran unopposed. But she felt too weary to even note how many votes she got. She registered, vaguely, that Joe Biden had won the presidential vote."
"She locked the office about 5:00 a.m. and headed home briefly to shower. No time for sleep. She said a brief good morning to Alan, a machinist, then gave him a goodbye peck and drove back toward her office. Along the way she stopped at McDonald’s to buy breakfast for the girls, who wanted sausage and egg McMuffins. Between placing her order and arriving at the pickup window, she received an email from an early-rising citizen who had seen reports of the presidential vote in Antrim. The short message was ominous: “Things don’t look right.”"