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  1. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    18 Dec '16 01:52
    What African-Americans Have to Gain From a Trump Presidency



    A lot of strong words were thrown about in this year’s presidential campaign, but few packed as powerful a punch as a single question that Donald Trump asked black voters in August.

    “What do you have to lose?”

    The pundits didn’t seem to understand, but many of us knew exactly what he meant. While the black community has much to celebrate, including its rich culture, spirit of strength, accomplishments, and progress in some areas, many African-Americans are suffering.

    Children who should be thriving are instead living in broken homes. Poverty that should be shrinking is instead rising. Streets that should be peaceful are instead rocked by violence. Schools that should be nurturing excellence are instead factories of failure. And seniors who deserve security instead fear what tomorrow may bring.

    It wasn’t always this way. In the mid-1900s, for example, poverty in the black community dropped by nearly 50 percent, and skilled tradesmen saw their income more than double relative to whites.

    Today, unemployment and poverty rates among African-Americans are nearly twice the national average, and 12 million blacks—including 4 million of our children—live in poverty.

    Things are bad on the education front as well. Today, fewer than half of all black students in many large U.S. cities graduate from high school. Just as shocking, the math achievement gap between black and white students has not changed in decades and has actually widened in reading.

    And consider what’s happened to our families. As hard as it may be to believe, the marriage rate among blacks used to be higher than it was among whites.

    As recently as 1960, more than 7 of every 10 black kids were being raised by both their mother and father. Today, fewer than half of them are. In fact, nearly 5 million black children today live in homes without one or both of their parents.

    Now, I realize a lot of professional politicians choose to ignore these facts, but, within the black community, we don’t. Because we can’t.

    That’s why many of us understood what Trump was asking.

    I truly believe that there is broad agreement on the need for change. Republicans and Democrats alike want to see our education system fixed so all children can achieve their full potential.

    They want to see health care disparities eliminated so all babies are born healthy and no senior dies for lack of access to quality health care. They want to see jobs created, poverty defeated, and our economy flourish. And they want to see our streets safe, our families strong, and our future bright.

    That said, Republicans and Democrats have some very different ideas about how to make those things happen.

    Ever since President Lyndon Johnson waged his “War on Poverty” over half a century ago, the Democrats’ approach has been to spend trillions of dollars on nearly 100 government programs. Fifty years later, we’re now worse off in many respects than we were before the War on Poverty began.

    And so Trump appealed to the black community to try a different approach.

    It won’t be easy, of course. Some will disparage Trump’s message and intent right out of the gate because they’ve been told they can only trust Democrats. Others will accuse Trump and his agenda of being “racist” or “bigoted” just because they know those words have an incendiary effect.

    But I find it striking that no one disagrees that America’s course must be changed. Because, nasty politics and fiery rhetoric aside, even Trump’s most panicked critics know deep down what most Americans have been consistently telling pollsters: Our nation has been on the wrong track.

    As the old saying goes, insanity means doing the same thing over and over again, each time expecting different results. Well, we’ve tried one government program after another and we’ve thrown piles of money and mountains of regulations at the problems plaguing our community. But the problems just keep getting worse.

    Fortunately, a lot of new talent is coming to Washington, D.C. People with deep compassion, vast experience, and a willingness to put their lives on hold while they help America get back on track. I’ve met many of these people, and each time I do, I feel a renewed sense of optimism about our country’s future.

    Like me, they are driven by a desire to eliminate poverty, create jobs, fix broken schools, improve our health, and heal our families. Their focus isn’t solely on the black community, but every policy that is good for all Americans has the potential to be especially positive for African-Americans because of how far we’ve fallen.

    The stage has been set with new players and bold ideas. Their sleeves are rolled up and their purpose is clear.

    Now it’s up to us. We can criticize and attack, as some are already doing even before Trump takes the oath of office. We can hurl ugly insults and take to the streets, as many have been doing. Or we can keep our hearts and minds open, lend a hand whenever needed, give good people time to do the good we need done, and join hands and forces to realize something Dr. Martin Luther King said long ago: “We have an opportunity to make America a better nation,” he told us, “to make America what it ought to be.”

    King was right. We do have that opportunity—right now. And understanding both what we have to lose as well as all that we have to gain is a great place to start.
    http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/08/what-african-americans-have-to-gain-from-a-trump-presidency/
  2. Standard member vivify
    rain
    18 Dec '16 03:51
    A President twice endorsed by the KKK (who called Trump's alt-right cabinet pick an "excellent choice" who knowingly spread gross exaggerations of black crime on Twitter.

    Blacks sure lucked out.
  3. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    18 Dec '16 04:10
    Originally posted by vivify
    A President twice endorsed by the KKK (who called Trump's alt-right cabinet pick an "excellent choice" who knowingly spread gross exaggerations of black crime on Twitter.

    Blacks sure lucked out.
    That article was written by a black woman. You are being very pessimistic, I am glad she is not.
  4. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    18 Dec '16 06:28
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    That article was written by a black woman. You are being very pessimistic, I am glad she is not.
    What's her take on the Gipper's characterization of black women as welfare queens or his war on drugs that did more to criminalize black men and incarcerate them than almost any other governmental measure you could mention. The creation of men free zones within the black community has largely been a consequence of Governmental policies accelerated under GOP management. But it provided cannon fodder for Kuwait Afghanistan and Iraq, so Kudos for foresight and planning, right?
  5. Standard member shavixmir
    Guppy poo
    18 Dec '16 07:25
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    What African-Americans Have to Gain From a Trump Presidency



    A lot of strong words were thrown about in this year’s presidential campaign, but few packed as powerful a punch as a single question that Donald Trump asked black voters in August.

    “What do you have to lose?”

    The pundits didn’t seem to understand, but many of us knew exactly what h ...[text shortened]...
    http://dailysignal.com/2016/12/08/what-african-americans-have-to-gain-from-a-trump-presidency/
    Yeah... so what exactly are Trump's plans to change the education system and relieve black poverty?
  6. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    18 Dec '16 08:47
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    That article was written by a black woman. You are being very pessimistic, I am glad she is not.
    Black women can be just as stupid as white men.
  7. 18 Dec '16 09:25
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    That article was written by a black woman. You are being very pessimistic, I am glad she is not.
    Well, we have the "unpresidented" (as Trump would say) situation that the administration is filled with morons and incompetents. Someone who is lacking (effective) high school education perhaps does not realize just how unqualified Trump and his picks are, so in that sense I suppose you are fortunate that your ignorance breeds some optimism.
  8. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    18 Dec '16 12:01
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, we have the "unpresidented" (as Trump would say) situation that the administration is filled with morons and incompetents. Someone who is lacking (effective) high school education perhaps does not realize just how unqualified Trump and his picks are, so in that sense I suppose you are fortunate that your ignorance breeds some optimism.
    Your a troll, you just won't be happy until government controls everything.
    You can't find anything good about Trump. He isn't even president yet, hasn't made one move and you already have him tried, found guilty and ready to execute.
    Your going to have a miserable 8 years.
  9. 18 Dec '16 12:22
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Your a troll, you just won't be happy until government controls everything.
    You can't find anything good about Trump. He isn't even president yet, hasn't made one move and you already have him tried, found guilty and ready to execute.
    Your going to have a miserable 8 years.
    Your (sic) a troll, you just won't be happy until government controls everything.

    Interesting criticism from someone who voted in an authoritarian strongman and who goes on lengthy rants about how other people have been granted too much freedom by the government.

    You can't find anything good about Trump.

    I wouldn't say that - he seems to be pretty good at being a reality TV star. It's not my cup of tea personally, but if people find that sort of thing entertaining I'm not judging.

    He isn't even president yet, hasn't made one move and you already have him tried, found guilty and ready to execute.

    You may have missed this, but he has made lots of "moves" including naming his cabinet picks, which aren't exactly the most qualified people out there. They're a bunch of billionaires, lobbyists, yes-men, conspiracy lunatics and Putin loyalists. I guess the Völkischer Beobachter hasn't gone in too much detail about them.

    Your (sic) going to have a miserable 8 years.

    As long as Trump doesn't ignite WW3, which he probably will not, I think I'm pretty safe from Trump and the GOP-controlled Congress. It's not my Social Security and Medicare that they're going to attack. In the meantime there is Trump's Twitter feed, a source of daily schadenfreude.
  10. 18 Dec '16 12:38
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Your a troll, you just won't be happy until government controls everything.
    You can't find anything good about Trump. He isn't even president yet, hasn't made one move and you already have him tried, found guilty and ready to execute.
    Your going to have a miserable 8 years.
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  11. Standard member vivify
    rain
    18 Dec '16 14:03
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    That article was written by a black woman. You are being very pessimistic, I am glad she is not.
    And there are women who support a man who regularly walked into dressing rooms of teen girls, and said he doesn't ask for permission to kiss a pretty woman. This doesn't make Trump any less sexist, nor does the OP make Trump any less racist.
  12. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    18 Dec '16 16:24
    Originally posted by vivify
    And there are women who support a man who regularly walked into dressing rooms of teen girls, and said he doesn't ask for permission to kiss a pretty woman. This doesn't make Trump any less sexist, nor does the OP make Trump any less racist.
    Nor does the media narrative make him a racist nor sexist. BTW, why don't I hear you libtards ever question your support past and present of candidates who love to support organizations that cut up babies and sell their parts? Or question why it is okay for a man or woman to choose the restroom of their choice? I can go on and on with sick immoral leftist policies, but what's the point?
    These forum posts are useless to deaf ears.
  13. Standard member vivify
    rain
    18 Dec '16 18:48 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    your support past and present of candidates who love to support organizations that cut up babies and sell their parts?
    This is a well-known falsehood. Planned Parenthood doesn't sell fetal parts. Scientific organizations offer to cover the costs of disposing aborted fetuses, and legally use fetal tissue for scientific research. Planned Parenthood doesn't make a profit from this process.

    You can easily verify what I've said, but that would shatter the self-delusion you've worked so hard at to be a conservative. You've also given a perfect example of why Facebook won't use conservative "fact checkers".
  14. Standard member checkbaiter
    By God's Grace
    18 Dec '16 23:18
    Originally posted by vivify
    This is a well-known falsehood. Planned Parenthood doesn't sell fetal parts. Scientific organizations offer to cover the costs of disposing aborted fetuses, and legally use fetal tissue for scientific research. Planned Parenthood doesn't make a profit from this process.

    You can easily verify what I've said, but that would shatter the self-delusion you'v ...[text shortened]... ve. You've also given a perfect example of why Facebook won't use conservative "fact checkers".
    http://www.lifenews.com/2016/04/20/new-documents-prove-planned-parenthood-illegally-profited-from-selling-aborted-baby-parts/

    http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/human-capital/how-planned-parenthood-profits-from-fetal-tissue-donation/
  15. Standard member vivify
    rain
    18 Dec '16 23:26
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    http://www.lifenews.com/2016/04/20/new-documents-prove-planned-parenthood-illegally-profited-from-selling-aborted-baby-parts/

    http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/human-capital/how-planned-parenthood-profits-from-fetal-tissue-donation/
    Anti-abortion sites? Nothing to see here.