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    13 Feb '19 16:481 edit
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-dem-some-sort-of-enhanced-barrier-may-be-acceptable-but-not-a-wall

    Democrats seem to have said that Trump may have a barrier, but not a wall. Problem is, being the dim witted unenlightened conservative I am, I have no idea what the difference is. Hell, I still identify people as male and female, so it's for damn sure I will never understand this on my own either.

    Who here does?
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    @whodey said
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-dem-some-sort-of-enhanced-barrier-may-be-acceptable-but-not-a-wall

    Democrats seem to have said that Trump may have a barrier, but not a wall. Problem is, being the dim witted unenlightened conservative I am, I have no idea what the difference is. Hell, I still identify people as male and female, so it's for damn sure I will never understand this on my own either.

    Who here does?
    Getting tired of all the talk of a wall.
    We all know it was a campaign slogan from 2 years ago.
    And Trump is clinging to the tired old mantra in order to preserve his optics with his base.

    What the wall will do is catch the low hanging fruit.
    That being the refugees from Central America.
    You know, those that will change the social and political demographic makeup of America.
    Social demographic being reducing the white skin makeup of your country.
    Political demographic being bringing in more left leaning people into your country.
    That’s the real fear, isn’t it .
    Importing Socialism !!
    Those that want to get in bad enough, the drug dealers, terrorists, etc will find a way.
    The focus should be on those.

    May I suggest that more attention be focused on building another kind of wall.
    A firewall that will keep out hackers from China and Russia.
    The latter being important in that your elections aren’t messed with and illegitimate administrations being put in place by external bad actors !!

    That is the real national emergency you should be contemplating right now.
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    13 Feb '19 19:50
    @mghrn55 said
    Getting tired of all the talk of a wall.
    We all know it was a campaign slogan from 2 years ago.
    And Trump is clinging to the tired old mantra in order to preserve his optics with his base.

    What the wall will do is catch the low hanging fruit.
    That being the refugees from Central America.
    You know, those that will change the social and political demographic makeup of Am ...[text shortened]... external bad actors !!

    That is the real national emergency you should be contemplating right now.
    The problem in America has never been in being attacked from without. The real problem is the attacks from within, most of which come directly from the right.

    Anyone remember Joe McCarthy?
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    13 Feb '19 21:34
    @mghrn55 said
    Getting tired of all the talk of a wall.
    We all know it was a campaign slogan from 2 years ago.
    And Trump is clinging to the tired old mantra in order to preserve his optics with his base.

    What the wall will do is catch the low hanging fruit.
    That being the refugees from Central America.
    You know, those that will change the social and political demographic makeup of Am ...[text shortened]... external bad actors !!

    That is the real national emergency you should be contemplating right now.
    I'll get this one. Hey MGM, you are up on another border? If you folks had wrecked your country, do you think we'd be so gracious as to open up the border so you can waltz in here and wreck ours?

    Secondly, the social, political and demographic of our country, which seems to have been working nicely for 240 years, would change, altho you are a little late with your comment, as change has been going on for 240 years. It has been great and healthy for our booming economy, which is #1 in the world, and we accept people who will follow our laws every day. They just must enter LEEEEGALLY. Whew.

    Does Canada require people who want to be citizens of Canada to enter legally?

    Thanks for your suggestions, I'm sure no one is working on hacking problems. Too busy trying to get people in line who would like to legally become citizens.

    Again, do you require people who enter Canada to enter legally?
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    @whodey said
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/top-dem-some-sort-of-enhanced-barrier-may-be-acceptable-but-not-a-wall

    Democrats seem to have said that Trump may have a barrier, but not a wall. Problem is, being the dim witted unenlightened conservative I am, I have no idea what the difference is. Hell, I still identify people as male and female, so it's for damn sure I will never understand this on my own either.

    Who here does?
    Donald Trump has advised Australia to rename something as the 'Great Wall Reef'.
    Perhaps he hopes that it would irritate the Chinese.
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    @averagejoe1 said
    I'll get this one. Hey MGM, you are up on another border? If you folks had wrecked your country, do you think we'd be so gracious as to open up the border so you can waltz in here and wreck ours?

    Secondly, the social, political and demographic of our country, which seems to have been working nicely for 240 years, would change, altho you are a little late with your co ...[text shortened]... like to legally become citizens.

    Again, do you require people who enter Canada to enter legally?
    It would be too easy to "wreck" your argument.
    And the debate could go on forever because other arguments just won't sink in with you, Whodey, Mott and others.

    Just a quick comment.
    Your first paragraph with the comments of people wrecking their countries and coming in to wreck yours.

    Where do you get this nonsense ??
    You live in a culture of fear which has been instilled by conservative thought.
    Anything new in the world and there are always those who fear what could go wrong.

    I suppose that's what happens to those who have gotten their nose stuck in a Bible.

    As to Canada, we are a country with the 2nd largest land area in the world and only 36 million people.
    We actually have think tanks that are setting objectives to have 100 million people by the end of this century.
    That is incredibly complicated.
    It requires thought to migration policy instead of immigration policy.
    Canada could well be greater than 50% Asian by 2100.
    And I for one am ok with that.

    You cling to a constitution that was written when the world had fewer than 1 billion people.
    Change is coming. Get with it !!
    Immigration policy is more about managing migration than the narrow minded "not in my backyard" school of thought that afflicts many of you.
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    13 Feb '19 22:33
    @mghrn55 said
    It would be too easy to "wreck" your argument.
    And the debate could go on forever because other arguments just won't sink in with you, Whodey, Mott and others.

    Just a quick comment.
    Your first paragraph with the comments of people wrecking their countries and coming in to wreck yours.

    Where do you get this nonsense ??
    You live in a culture of fear which has been inst ...[text shortened]... g migration than the narrow minded "not in my backyard" school of thought that afflicts many of you.
    What is the nonsense that you say I 'got'? Don't get your saying that conservatives fear. Liberals are scared to death all the time. Weenie-like. Let's say I go asleep tonight and forget to lock my front door, and jump up at 3AM , like , OMG. That is fear, I guess. That the fear you are talking about? Fear someone could come in and wreck my house, my family? Steal my meds? Money?

    So, I guess you are right, this particular conservative does fear. Do you know there is an invasion at our southern border. I will save you and me the boredom of my typing about it, it is in the news, you probably have not heard of it,,,,or....
    or.....you are in denial?

    Great geographical treatise on Canada and that you are 'OK' with what is going on, but can you imagine an invasion on your southern border?

    Saved the best for last..........................WHY don't libs answer the main questions? "Does Canada require people who want to be citizens to enter legally?'

    Even our libs, together with Whodey and Mott, are probably curious
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    @averagejoe1 said
    What is the nonsense that you say I 'got'? Don't get your saying that conservatives fear. Liberals are scared to death all the time. Weenie-like. Let's say I go asleep tonight and forget to lock my front door, and jump up at 3AM , like , OMG. That is fear, I guess. That the fear you are talking about? Fear someone could come in and wreck my house, my family? Steal my ...[text shortened]... be citizens to enter legally?'

    Even our libs, together with Whodey and Mott, are probably curious
    Invasion ?? Really ?
    Who's doing the invading ??
    Doesn't sound like your talking about drug traffickers and rapists any more.
    If you are saying you have a refugee problem, then talk about that.
    And try to come up with a solution.
    Rest assured, a wall, or a big beautiful wall, won't be the best solution.
    A wall appeals to the most basic intelligence level of the Trump base.
    No one is suggesting that these people just be allowed to enter the country.
    What I am saying is that Trump always talking about the wall, the big beautiful wall, just means that he is bereft of a solution.

    He should stop trying to convince his base.
    They've already swallowed his schtick hook, line and sinker.
    He needs to convince the rest of the public.

    And your attempts to create an analogy between your house and your country is really quite silly.
    Cut it out, please !!
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    @mghrn55 said
    Invasion ?? Really ?
    Who's doing the invading ??
    Doesn't sound like your talking about drug traffickers and rapists any more.
    If you are saying you have a refugee problem, then talk about that.
    And try to come up with a solution.
    Rest assured, a wall, or a big beautiful wall, won't be the best solution.
    A wall appeals to the most basic intelligence level of the Trump b ...[text shortened]... create an analogy between your house and your country is really quite silly.
    Cut it out, please !!
    First, our man from Canada will NOT answer, "does Canada require a person enter its country legally". He will not answer the question. Scribe, please note that in your minutes. Everybody, this is classic stuff, this is the ONLY reason I type on this great forum. The only reason. These sniveling liberals!!! and he's not even one of US!!!!!!

    He says 'If you are having a refugee problem..."

    OK, if you will.....Ref-u-gee. A person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster. So, our problem is not about actual refugees. Only invaders.

    Absolutely Everything from this poster is irrelevant after that. Zero in, please. First, he is not from around here. We have Netherlanders and Scandinaivan-landers on board as well. The Scandinavians are totally white with no one there from Guatemala. Sounds ugly, I know, but they have no clue.

    Invader: " A person or group who invades a country, region, or other place"

    He asks me (us) 'who is doing the invading'. THEN He says 'Really?" Really is a reference, I assume to the fact that the INVADERS are 'Really' invading our borders. They cannot travel under the guise of refugees, as they do not fit that definition. Maybe he is lookin at a Canadian dictionary. The dictionary, like our LAWS, that we follow, are American guidelines.

    I will now settle down. MGHRN, we have invaders from the south. See above,,,,,,,,they are not refugees, see above. Now, will you please answer the question, and please don't write stuff that is nebulous, irrelevant, off course, emotttiiionnnnnalll, inane, or unresearched.

    The question is (was) Does Canada require people seeking citizenship to enter legally? I think we are connected now.
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