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  1. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    04 Jul '16 22:57
    Americans seem preoccupied with sexuality, it's normally a topic in the political forums, and the source of never ending debate. While other countries focus on transportation, the economy, and other issues, Americans prefer to focus on sexuality. Any idea why?
  2. 05 Jul '16 00:49
    Originally posted by mchill
    Americans seem preoccupied with sexuality, it's normally a topic in the political forums, and the source of never ending debate. While other countries focus on transportation, the economy, and other issues, Americans prefer to focus on sexuality. Any idea why?
    So what are you? Gay or Bi?
  3. Standard member vivify
    rain
    05 Jul '16 01:55
    Originally posted by mchill
    Americans seem preoccupied with sexuality, it's normally a topic in the political forums, and the source of never ending debate. While other countries focus on transportation, the economy, and other issues, Americans prefer to focus on sexuality. Any idea why?
    Because there are so many religious people in this country.
  4. 05 Jul '16 03:55
    Originally posted by mchill
    Americans seem preoccupied with sexuality, it's normally a topic in the political forums, and the source of never ending debate. While other countries focus on transportation, the economy, and other issues, Americans prefer to focus on sexuality. Any idea why?
    Consumerism dominates America. Sex and sexuality is used to sell almost anything and everything.

    On the other hand, I've often heard this nation described as repressive sexually, so I don't know what the truth is.
  5. 05 Jul '16 07:03 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by mchill
    Americans seem preoccupied with sexuality, it's normally a topic in the political forums, and the source of never ending debate. While other countries focus on transportation, the economy, and other issues, Americans prefer to focus on sexuality. Any idea why?
    Hmmm.

    Focus on sexuality.

    Focus on 'transportation, the economy, and other issues.'

    Tough call, that one.
  6. 05 Jul '16 08:08
    Originally posted by whodey
    So what are you? Gay or Bi?
    heh, way to prove his point. he says america is preoccupied with sexuality, you ask him his sexual orientation. not where he is from, how old he is, what he does for a living, you know, relevant stuff. you go straight for his sexuality as if that's any of your business.

    or maybe this is your way to propose to him?
  7. 05 Jul '16 08:41
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    heh, way to prove his point. he says america is preoccupied with sexuality, you ask him his sexual orientation. not where he is from, how old he is, what he does for a living, you know, relevant stuff. you go straight for his sexuality as if that's any of your business.

    or maybe this is your way to propose to him?
    Have you considered the possibility that Whodey was being ironic here? Maybe?
  8. 05 Jul '16 08:44
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    Have you considered the possibility that Whodey was being ironic here? Maybe?
    no. he is too limited.
  9. 05 Jul '16 10:03
    Originally posted by mchill
    Americans seem preoccupied with sexuality, it's normally a topic in the political forums, and the source of never ending debate. While other countries focus on transportation, the economy, and other issues, Americans prefer to focus on sexuality. Any idea why?
    The American ruling class long ago figured out how to manipulate democracy. Make people focus on things that don't stop the rich getting richer. This is, in part, achieved by ensuring the media is in private hands. I suspect you will find that even in your own country, privately held media has a significantly different focus from state media. And people are natural media junkies ie they believe that what is talked about in the media is important in proportion to how much it is talked about.
  10. 05 Jul '16 10:17 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by mchill
    Americans seem preoccupied with sexuality, it's normally a topic in the political forums, and the source of never ending debate. While other countries focus on transportation, the economy, and other issues, Americans prefer to focus on sexuality. Any idea why?
    Now put yourself in the position of a politician in the US.

    Your option are, talk about the unsustainability of wars across the globe along side of a massive nanny state that has reached a $20 trillion debt with no retreat and a populace with a deteriorating economy and standard of living, or do you talk about gay sex? The answer is obvious. The only trouble now is, gay marriage is legal, what will they talk about next? I'm fearful for the future of the average US politician.

    Incidentally, do they have gay pride marches in your country or just the sex obsessed US?
  11. 05 Jul '16 12:35 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    no. he is too limited.
    Sex, sex, sex, sex, sex!!!

    Sorry, I get carried away like that sometimes being American and all.

    So how do you like it? Whips and chains is my guess.
  12. Standard member vivify
    rain
    05 Jul '16 13:23
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    no. he is too limited.
    Ironic/sarcastic posts are things he's actually good at.
  13. 05 Jul '16 13:27
    Originally posted by vivify
    Ironic/sarcastic posts are things he's actually good at.
    sarcasm is easy, it's nothing to be "good" at.

    the irony is how oblivious he is of his own posts. he never intends it.

    sure, it is possible he is trolling, then yes, he is good. he got us all fooled into thinking he is moronic.
  14. Standard member vivify
    rain
    05 Jul '16 13:48 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    sarcasm is easy, it's nothing to be "good" at.

    the irony is how oblivious he is of his own posts. he never intends it.

    sure, it is possible he is trolling, then yes, he is good. he got us all fooled into thinking he is moronic.
    I meant "good" as in a good number of them can be rather witty. Yes, most of them lack little things like "facts" "accuracy" or "support from credible sources".

    And, there's a poster here who admitted to struggling with pulling off sarcasm on this site.
  15. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    05 Jul '16 21:02
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    The American ruling class long ago figured out how to manipulate democracy. Make people focus on things that don't stop the rich getting richer. This is, in part, achieved by ensuring the media is in private hands. I suspect you will find that even in your own country, privately held media has a significantly different focus from state media. And people a ...[text shortened]... hat what is talked about in the media is important in proportion to how much it is talked about.
    Some quotes from a book about Hillary Clinton which I have quoted a good few times confirm your impression:

    the Democratic Party’s support for abortion rights in the face of the so-called Republican “War on Women” has become increasingly central to the party’s messaging. P111
    ...on other issues that disproportionately affect women, like health care, welfare, and wages, there is little policy consensus among Democrats. As a brand, abortion is pretty much all they’ve got. P111

    It’s fair to say the makers and distributors of Mexican misoprostol pills have done infinitely more than Hillary Clinton’s political clique to ensure reality-based abortion rights... P112
    It seems ill-conceived to have tethered feminism to such a narrow issue as abortion. Yet it makes sense from an insular Beltway fund-raising perspective to focus on an issue that makes no demands—the opposite, really—of the oligarch class; 120

    abortion is a consummately foolish thing to attempt to build a political movement around. It happens once or twice in a woman’s lifetime. Kids, on the other hand, are with you forever. A more promising movement—one that goes against everything Hillary Clinton stands for—might take that to heart. P121

    “The US is funding trafficking NGOs at 686 million a year and most of the money goes to ‘creating awareness on sex trafficking,’ and the rest [of the money funneled into those organizations] goes to pay their board members, many who make six-figure salaries,” says Robinson. “When I called Polaris they said they don’t investigate anything, all they do is relay the tips to local police. I said, ‘Can’t people just dial 911 and we can save the 3 to 7 million a year you get in federal funding?’ They admitted they do not have any direct services, so all they do is refer victims to public shelters. A person can dial 211 and get a list of the same fake services.” 129


    What is clear is that sexual rights are not protected by the political process, but - if at all - by the constitution.

    Tara Burns writes: Like we saw recently in the Supreme Court decision to allow gay marriage, the courts are where minority peoples most often see our rights affirmed. The Supreme Court’s job is not to act as a moral arbitrator or to interpret the will of the people. It’s to interpret the law, beginning with the constitution. LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender] people were being denied their constitutional right to equal protection under the law. 129