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  1. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    15 Jul '16 22:44 / 1 edit
    http://www.laweekly.com/music/henry-rollins-white-america-couldnt-handle-what-black-america-deals-with-every-day-7134994

    Things are bad, but I would posit that they have been this way for as far back into American history as you want to go. What has changed is the amount of information available to the average citizen. Thanks to cellphones and people employing social networking to spread news quickly, what goes on minute to minute has crossed the line into overload.

    Now that you can watch people die on Facebook, your evaluation of the facts and the sheer amount of information you want to deal with is up to you. But you can no longer say you don’t know what’s going on.

    If white America experienced a fraction of what black America deals with regarding law enforcement, incarceration, the court system, employment and countless other facts of life, they would immediately and collectively lose their minds.

    Equality, tolerance and decency are not inherently American or human traits. They are values you choose to adopt and use or not.
  2. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    15 Jul '16 22:53
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/jul/13/van-jones/van-jones-claim-drug-use-imprisonment-rates-blacks/

    Jones said that African-Americans don't use drugs at a higher level than whites but wind up going to prison six times more.

    African-Americans use drugs at roughly the same levels as white Americans, although overall illicit drug use among blacks has been marginally higher than for whites, with some differences in the types of drugs used, according to a national surveys.

    Jones' bigger point was about the disparity in sentencing, and the rate of African-Americans' incarceration for drug offenses is very close to what Jones said.

    We rate his claim Mostly True.
  3. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    15 Jul '16 23:00
    https://www.facebook.com/NewsTaraGrimes/videos/vb.216571291696864/1173765415977442/

    I was shocked and disgusted by this video of a woman doing an interview with a journalist and she is aggressively arrested in the middle of it. More like assaulted than arrested.
  4. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    15 Jul '16 23:10
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rudy-giuliani-black-kids-99-chance-killing-article-1.2706349?utm_content=bufferb99d0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/rudy-giuliani-spewing-pure-hate-comments-black-children-article-1.2705639

    Rudy Giuliani spewing pure hate: Loathsome ex-mayor slams Black Lives Matter, says we should be afraid of black children
  5. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    15 Jul '16 23:37
    http://time.com/4399793/emmett-till-civil-rights-photography/

    More than 60 years ago, when racial segregation was still the norm in many states, one grieving mother, Mamie Elizabeth Till-Mobley, understood the power of imagery to expose America’s racism.

    In August 1955, Emmett Till, a black teenager from Chicago, was visiting relatives in Mississippi when he stopped at Bryant’s Grocery and Meat Market. There he encountered Carolyn Bryant, a white woman. Whether Till really flirted with Bryant or whistled at her isn’t known. But what happened four days later is. Bryant’s husband Roy and his half brother, J.W. Milam, seized the 14-year-old from his great-uncle’s house. The pair then beat Till, shot him, and strung barbed wire and a 75-pound metal fan around his neck and dumped the lifeless body in the Tallahatchie River. A white jury quickly acquitted the men, with one juror saying it had taken so long only because they had to break to drink some pop.

    When Till’s mother Mamie came to identify her son, she told the funeral director, “Let the people see what I’ve seen.” She brought him home to Chicago and insisted on an open casket. Tens of thousands filed past Till’s remains, but it was the publication of the searing image photographed by David Jackson and first published in Jet magazine, with a stoic Mamie gazing at her murdered child’s ravaged body, that forced the world to reckon with the brutality of American racism. For almost a century, African Americans were lynched with regularity and impunity. Now, thanks to a mother’s determination to expose the barbarousness of the crime, the public could no longer pretend to ignore what they couldn’t see.

    In this video narrated by Bryan Stevenson, an attorney and the executive director of the Equal Justice Initiative, has no doubt: “Without the images,” he says “no one would be prepared to believe the violence we’ve witnessed.”
  6. Subscriber joe shmo
    Strange Egg
    16 Jul '16 00:53
    Originally posted by finnegan
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/jul/13/van-jones/van-jones-claim-drug-use-imprisonment-rates-blacks/

    Jones said that African-Americans don't use drugs at a higher level than whites but wind up going to prison six times more.

    African-Americans use drugs at roughly the same levels as white Americans, although overall illicit drug us ...[text shortened]... arceration for drug offenses is very close to what Jones said.

    We rate his claim Mostly True.
    Show me the specific statistic please.
  7. 16 Jul '16 01:14
    Originally posted by joe shmo
    Show me the specific statistic please.
    Why did you interrupt him?

    He was having another conversation with himself!
  8. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    16 Jul '16 01:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by joe shmo
    Show me the specific statistic please.
    Because Google doesn't work for you? Because blacks experiencing inequality is a shameless industry pandering to white guilt? Because blacks were never discriminated against or lynched or routinely brutalised? Because the impact of slavery and generational exploitation was equitably dealt with under reconstruction? Because the Tuskeegee experiments were just anti-white propaganda? Because blacks only have themselves to blame, because of a lack of intelligence and character?

    What exactly is hard for you to comprehend in this day and age with all the information readily available out there? But don't worry, keeping watching David Duke's YouTube channel. He's got all the arguments you need and more, to keep your head firmly up your clacker.

    How's the sand BTW?
  9. Subscriber joe shmo
    Strange Egg
    16 Jul '16 01:33
    Originally posted by whodey
    Why did you interrupt him?

    He was having another conversation with himself!
    I didn't realize...until after it was too late. Sorry about that, I won't let it happen again.
  10. 16 Jul '16 03:11
    http://www.amren.com/features/2016/07/why-have-we-unlearned-what-we-knew-in-1900/
  11. Standard member finnegan
    GENS UNA SUMUS
    16 Jul '16 13:37
    Originally posted by joe shmo
    Show me the specific statistic please.
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/jul/13/van-jones/van-jones-claim-drug-use-imprisonment-rates-blacks/