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  1. Subscriberno1marauder
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    25 Jun '18 07:031 edit
    How many on this Forum have it? Interesting Opinion Piece by Charles Blow in the New York Times giving some scary numbers for our white supremacist friends:

    “First, for the first time since the Census Bureau has released these annual statistics, they show an absolute decline in the nation’s white non-Hispanic population — accelerating a phenomenon that was not projected to occur until the next decade.

    The report continued: “Second, the new numbers show that for the first time there are more children who are minorities than who are white, at every age from zero to nine. This means we are on the cusp of seeing the first minority white generation, born in 2007 and later, which perhaps we can dub Generation ‘Z-Plus.’”

    The Applied Population Lab at the University of Wisconsin-Madison also issued a report last week that pointed out: “In 2016, more non-Hispanic whites died than were born in twenty-six states; more than at any time in U.S. history. Some 179 million residents or roughly 56 percent of the U.S. population, lived in these 26 states.”

    The report also noted that, “When births fail to keep pace with deaths, a region is said to have a ‘natural decrease’ in population,” and that: “A finding from previous research on natural decrease, which is consistent with our findings, is that once an area begins to experience natural decrease, the trend is likely to continue. Only California, New Mexico, and West Virginia have experienced natural increase after the initial onset of decrease, and in each case it was only for a year.”

    This is happening. America will soon be a majority-minority country.

    White America is growing older, there are fewer white women of childbearing age, and the white fertility rate is lower than that of Hispanics and blacks.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/opinion/america-white-extinction.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region

    Does this description fit you?:

    people who conflated America with whiteness, and therefore a loss of white primacy becomes a loss of American identity.

    EDIT: The Brookings study is here: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2018/06/21/us-white-population-declines-and-generation-z-plus-is-minority-white-census-shows/

    The decline in white population is pretty small; 9,000 in 2016 and 31,000 in 2017 in a white population of 197+ million. Still, the overall trend is clear.
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    25 Jun '18 11:23
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    How many on this Forum have it? Interesting Opinion Piece by Charles Blow in the New York Times giving some scary numbers for our white supremacist friends:

    “First, for the first time since the Census Bureau has released these annual statistics, they show an absolute decline in the nation’s white non-Hispanic population — accelerating a phenomenon th ...[text shortened]... 016 and 31,000 in 2017 in a white population of 197+ million. Still, the overall trend is clear.
    That's nothing. My parents were both racist, dad much more so than mom but I still read it in her and she worried about the exact same thing I heard in conversations around 1950 when I was 9. I vowed to myself to be better than them at least that one thing. Of course you can't totally rid yourself of such upbringing but I hope I did better than they at it.
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    25 Jun '18 11:26
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    How many on this Forum have it? Interesting Opinion Piece by Charles Blow in the New York Times giving some scary numbers for our white supremacist friends:

    “First, for the first time since the Census Bureau has released these annual statistics, they show an absolute decline in the nation’s white non-Hispanic population — accelerating a phenomenon th ...[text shortened]... 016 and 31,000 in 2017 in a white population of 197+ million. Still, the overall trend is clear.
    I’ve never seen you so happy.
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    25 Jun '18 11:30
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    How many on this Forum have it? Interesting Opinion Piece by Charles Blow in the New York Times giving some scary numbers for our white supremacist friends:

    “First, for the first time since the Census Bureau has released these annual statistics, they show an absolute decline in the nation’s white non-Hispanic population — accelerating a phenomenon th ...[text shortened]... 016 and 31,000 in 2017 in a white population of 197+ million. Still, the overall trend is clear.
    aids/illegal drug deaths keeping us in the race...LOL
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    25 Jun '18 11:38
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    How many on this Forum have it? Interesting Opinion Piece by Charles Blow in the New York Times giving some scary numbers for our white supremacist friends:

    “First, for the first time since the Census Bureau has released these annual statistics, they show an absolute decline in the nation’s white non-Hispanic population — accelerating a phenomenon th ...[text shortened]... 016 and 31,000 in 2017 in a white population of 197+ million. Still, the overall trend is clear.
    Racism is deeply embedded in U.S. culture and covertly through the legal system. Since whites hold economic and thus political power, I suspect the phenomenon of the non-white population becoming the majority will simply increase the loss of democracy in the U.S. as via the culture and laws, white privilege increases. Perhaps the most unfortunate fact is that the U.S. wields so much economic and political power globally, although maybe under Trump this influence is weakening.
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    25 Jun '18 12:12
    Originally posted by @phranny
    Racism is deeply embedded in U.S. culture and covertly through the legal system. Since whites hold economic and thus political power, I suspect the phenomenon of the non-white population becoming the majority will simply increase the loss of democracy in the U.S. as via the culture and laws, white privilege increases. Perhaps the most unfortunate fact is t ...[text shortened]... h economic and political power globally, although maybe under Trump this influence is weakening.
    but you don't see the snitchs post as racist?
  7. Subscriberno1marauder
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    25 Jun '18 12:24
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    but you don't see the snitchs post as racist?
    "Racist"? In what possible sense?
  8. Subscriberno1marauder
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    25 Jun '18 12:34
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    aids/illegal drug deaths keeping us in the race...LOL
    I hate to disappoint you, but a substantial majority of those who die from illegal drug overdoses in the US are white. https://www.statista.com/statistics/751567/us-drug-overdose-deaths-by-drug-type-and-ethnicity/

    And while black Americans were slightly more than half of the deaths from AIDS in the last year that stats were available (2015), deaths from AIDS are pretty rare in the US - down to about 6,000 a year. https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/racialethnic/africanamericans/index.html

    That's out of 2.7 million deaths in the US that year. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
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    25 Jun '18 13:02
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    How many on this Forum have it? Interesting Opinion Piece by Charles Blow in the New York Times giving some scary numbers for our white supremacist friends:

    “First, for the first time since the Census Bureau has released these annual statistics, they show an absolute decline in the nation’s white non-Hispanic population — accelerating a phenomenon th ...[text shortened]... 016 and 31,000 in 2017 in a white population of 197+ million. Still, the overall trend is clear.
    Race means nothing. My hope is that the ideas of the founder's, and the liberty and prosperity they helped create, will survive the coming demographic changes.
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    25 Jun '18 13:14
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    How many on this Forum have it? Interesting Opinion Piece by Charles Blow in the New York Times giving some scary numbers for our white supremacist friends:

    “First, for the first time since the Census Bureau has released these annual statistics, they show an absolute decline in the nation’s white non-Hispanic population — accelerating a phenomenon th ...[text shortened]... 016 and 31,000 in 2017 in a white population of 197+ million. Still, the overall trend is clear.
    Power hungry Europeans came to America who came from despotic governments that the colonists luckily were later able to break away from. They ruthlessly created an "us against them" mentality against the American Indian. That is because they wanted their land so that they could form their own despotic governments to take it from the people. To do this, they presented the American Indian as "dark skinned" and inferior. They did this knowing that they had superior numbers and arms, and all they needed was a willing populace to follow their lead, which led to the virtual eradication of American Indians by these foreign immigrants.

    Today, we have power hunger Progressives that want nothing more than greater government control over the populace. So they now favor the darker skinned people who flee for their lives from foreign hell holes with tyrannical and despotic. They do this knowing that these people have no knowledge of what a limited government means. No, all they know is government control over everything. Add to this fact that Progressives are attempting to get another racial block vote in these dark skinned immigrants that they enjoy with Black Americans as about 99% voted for Obama.

    In the interim, we will see these Nazi skin heads, also known as Nazi socialists, beat the drums of racism and hate as they are labeled "right wing", all to the delight of people like yourself. You then ignore people like Maxine Waters embracing another race baiter named Louis Farakahn who calls white people white devils and calls Jews the race of Satan.

    The more race baiting that people like yourself can do, the better. The more Bernie Sanders supporters you can muster to try and murder GOP Congressmen the better. The goal here is virtual anarchy and subsequent police state to try and keep it all together.

    Carry on.
  11. Standard membersh76
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    25 Jun '18 13:32
    Originally posted by @no1marauder
    How many on this Forum have it? Interesting Opinion Piece by Charles Blow in the New York Times giving some scary numbers for our white supremacist friends:

    “First, for the first time since the Census Bureau has released these annual statistics, they show an absolute decline in the nation’s white non-Hispanic population — accelerating a phenomenon th ...[text shortened]... 016 and 31,000 in 2017 in a white population of 197+ million. Still, the overall trend is clear.
    Decrease in population growth seems to be better correlated with economic status than with race. As minority races become wealthier and better educated, presumably, their population increases will slow as well.

    Still, there will be a lag that will cause white's proportionate share of the population to continue to plummet for the next few decades, at least.

    As for what it means for the US, probably not much, as long as the principles on which American society is built hold (and I see no reason why they wouldn't). Whites probably gained an advantage in the western world through the accident of the Renaissance thinkers, who built the theories of society and government that led to the industrial and technological revolutions. If their ideas had occurred to black or Arab thinkers first, no doubt they would have supremacy in the western world.

    It's the ideas that matter, not the color of the person who has them.
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    25 Jun '18 14:05
    Originally posted by @sh76
    It's the ideas that matter, not the color of the person who has them.
    Yep.
  13. Standard membershavixmir
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    25 Jun '18 14:09
    White, black... all
    americans are trailer trash to me.
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    25 Jun '18 14:12
    Originally posted by @shavixmir
    White, black... all
    americans are trailer trash to me.
    When we show up at your border seeking asylum from all the liberal psychos, will you let us in? We'll bring our own mobile homes. All we need are electrical outlets and US to Euro converters for our plugs. We'll even bring our own whiskey.
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    25 Jun '18 14:15
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    When we show up at your border seeking asylum from all the liberal psychos, will you let us in? We'll bring our own mobile homes. All we need are electrical outlets and US to Euro converters for our plugs. We'll even bring our own whiskey.
    At some point, Europe may become more free than the US. I anticipate a fascist left winged freak of nature getting in there after Trump to "set things right".

    Would let us immigrate?
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