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  1. Zugzwang
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    17 Mar '19 01:17
    That point needs to be regularly made in this extremely
    narrow ethnocentric forum dominated by white men.

    Here's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez making that point:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/16/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-favorability-poll-criticism-bias

    "'White men are considered everyone': Ocasio-Cortez calls out poll stories bias.
    Commentators suggest Americans view Democrat negatively even
    as poll finds women and non-white respondents disagree"

    "There were sharp partisan and racial divides in this response.
    Since September, Ocasio-Cortez’s net favorability dropped most
    sharply among Republicans (-21), white Americans (-15),
    men (-11) and Americans over 55 (-10). At the same time,
    net favorability increased among nonwhite Americans (+9)
    and Democrats (+8)."

    A similar bias exists here, where many (mostly racist or sexist)
    white men like to keep claiming that they must represent
    everyone, so they insist that everyone hates me because they do.
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    @duchess64 said
    That point needs to be regularly made in this extremely
    narrow ethnocentric forum dominated by white men.

    Here's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez making that point:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/16/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-favorability-poll-criticism-bias

    "'White men are considered everyone': Ocasio-Cortez calls out poll stories bias.
    Commentators suggest A ...[text shortened]... claiming that they must represent
    everyone, so they insist that everyone hates me because they do.
    Are working class men more or less disadvantaged than middleclass women?
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    @duchess64 said
    That point needs to be regularly made in this extremely
    narrow ethnocentric forum dominated by white men.

    Here's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez making that point:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/16/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-favorability-poll-criticism-bias

    "'White men are considered everyone': Ocasio-Cortez calls out poll stories bias.
    Commentators suggest A ...[text shortened]... claiming that they must represent
    everyone, so they insist that everyone hates me because they do.
    I hate your racism D, not you.
  4. Zugzwang
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    17 Mar '19 02:20
    @stellspalfie said
    Are working class men more or less disadvantaged than middleclass women?
    It depends upon the context.

    In many societies, working-class men enjoy more freedom (by being less afraid)
    than middle-class women to walk alone (particularly in darkness) in public places.

    I have heard serious advice that a woman always should hire a taxi
    (which she may not be able to afford) rather than risk walking alone
    in darkness for any extended distance.

    Working-class men have less personal reason than middle-class women
    to worry about abortion being banned or made practically unavailable.
  5. Behind the scenes
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    17 Mar '19 05:451 edit
    @duchess64 said
    That point needs to be regularly made in this extremely
    narrow ethnocentric forum dominated by white men.

    Here's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez making that point:
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/16/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-favorability-poll-criticism-bias

    "'White men are considered everyone': Ocasio-Cortez calls out poll stories bias.
    Commentators suggest A ...[text shortened]... claiming that they must represent
    everyone, so they insist that everyone hates me because they do.
    A similar bias exists here, where many (mostly racist or sexist)
    white men like to keep claiming that they must represent
    everyone, so they insist that everyone hates me because they do.



    I was wondering how long it would take before Duchess blessed us with another post highlighting the fact that only white man are evil, and everyone else are simply pure and innocent victims.

    -I guess not very long.

    😴
  6. Zugzwang
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    @mchill said
    A similar bias exists here, where many (mostly racist or sexist)
    white men like to keep claiming that they must represent
    everyone, so they insist that everyone hates me because they do.

    I was wondering how long it would take before Duchess blessed us with another post highlighting the fact that only white man are evil, and everyone else are simply pure and innocent victims.

    -I guess not very long.

    😴
    Can the racist troll Mchill even comprehend, let alone accept, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's point?
    "White men are considered everyone': Ocasio-Cortez calls out poll stories bias."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/the-worlds-worst-support-group/536850/

    "How White Supremacists Use Victimhood to Recruit
    A sociologist explores how racists paint themselves as the innocent ones."

    "It may seem puzzling that the racism of these white men—the
    most powerful group of people in the world—is motivated
    by a sense that they’ll be wiped away somehow.
    But according to research on white supremacists, a sense of
    victimhood is exactly what groups like these use to grow their cause."

    Many, if not most, white men here have embraced that
    absurd racist dogma of white male victimhood.
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    @duchess64 said
    Can the racist troll Mchill even comprehend, let alone accept, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's point?
    "White men are considered everyone': Ocasio-Cortez calls out poll stories bias."

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/the-worlds-worst-support-group/536850/

    "How White Supremacists Use Victimhood to Recruit
    A sociologist explores how racists paint themse ...[text shortened]... Many, if not most, white men here have embraced that
    absurd racist dogma of white male victimhood.
    It is indisputable that you target white males and then act surprised when those same white males don't thank you for spread lies about them.
  8. Zugzwang
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    @quackquack said
    It is indisputable that you target white males and then act surprised when those same white males don't thank you for spread lies about them.
    The deeply racist Quackquack lies as usual and corroborates the accuracy
    of this article and my comment about it:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/the-worlds-worst-support-group/536850/

    "How White Supremacists Use Victimhood to Recruit
    A sociologist explores how racists paint themselves as the innocent ones."

    "It may seem puzzling that the racism of these white men—the
    most powerful group of people in the world—is motivated
    by a sense that they’ll be wiped away somehow.
    But according to research on white supremacists, a sense of
    victimhood is exactly what groups like these use to grow their cause."

    Many, if not most, white men here have embraced that
    absurd racist dogma of white male victimhood.

    In fact, I often have CITED OR QUOTED CRITICISMS BY SOME WHITE WRITERS OF WHITE RACISM.
    And, as far as I can tell, racists here refuse to read these criticisms, completely rejecting them.

    I already have cited this article several times:

    https://everydayfeminism.com/2014/07/8-things-white-people-race/

    "8 Things White People Really Need to Understand About Race"

    "Politics in the United States, whether advanced by Republicans or Democrats, have
    by and large created, reinforced, and entrenched White supremacy in our systems.

    Thus, racism is a White people problem, not a partisan problem. Until we as White people
    understand our own investment in ending racial oppression, there will be plenty of people
    all across the political spectrum who will say and do racist things and, more dangerously,
    pass racist policies

    If we want to end racism, White people need to do more listening.
    Something that often offends White people (especially since we can be socialized
    to believe we’re experts on anything and everything) is the idea that there are
    many, many things about race and racism in the United States that we inherently
    do not understand because we are White."
    --Jamie Utt (a white American man)

    In this forum, white people do NOT LISTEN about racism, except perhaps to
    OTHER WHITE PEOPLE, who tend to reinforce their ignorance and prejudices.

    It seems about universal in this forum that white people (whether 'conservative' or
    'liberal' ) feel that they have nothing to learn about racism, particularly from non-white people.
    What white people here seem to have most in common is being about completely
    close-minded on racism.
  9. Zugzwang
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    17 Mar '19 18:08
    @quackquack said
    It is indisputable that you target white males and then act surprised when those same white males don't thank you for spread lies about them.
    The deeply racist Quackquack likes to pretend that he must represent all white people.
    But, in fact, at least several white writers here (ranging from No1Marauder to Zahlanzi)
    already have condemned Quackquack's racism in earlier threads.

    "White Americans are probably the sickest and certainly the most dangerous people,
    of any colour, to be found in the world today"
    --James Baldwin
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    @duchess64 said
    The deeply racist Quackquack lies as usual and corroborates the accuracy
    of this article and my comment about it:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/the-worlds-worst-support-group/536850/

    "How White Supremacists Use Victimhood to Recruit
    A sociologist explores how racists paint themselves as the innocent ones."

    "It may seem puzzling that the ...[text shortened]... hat white people here seem to have most in common is being about completely
    close-minded on racism.
    There is no one who spews hate in this forum more than you. Your inability to comprehend that is a sign of your low intelligence. I have stated nothing sexist or racist. The fact that I disagree with your hateful personal anti male and anti white attacks has nothing to do with gender or race--- it has to do specifically with the fact that you make personal attacks against all who disagree with you and advocate ideas which are simply stupid.
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    Ok we get it.
    A lot of white people don't like other races.
    That will never change.
    All this racial talk in the media is creating more division.
    You are wasting your time and your life worrying about it.
    If you were unbiased it would stimulate conversation but you are biased.
    You never talk about other races when they are being racist.

    You Duchess64 are no different than a white supremacist. You just play on a different team.

    You are wasting your life.
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    @rowin-side said
    Ok we get it.
    A lot of white people don't like other races.
    That will never change.
    All this racial talk in the media is creating more division.
    You are wasting your time and your life worrying about it.
    If you were unbiased it would stimulate conversation but you are biased.
    You never talk about other races when they are being racist.

    You Duchess64 are no different than a white supremacist. You just play on a different team.

    You are wasting your life.
    In mitigation, she apparently has a very good singing voice.
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    LoL
  14. Zugzwang
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    @quackquack said
    There is no one who spews hate in this forum more than you. Your inability to comprehend that is a sign of your low intelligence. I have stated nothing sexist or racist. The fact that I disagree with your hateful personal anti male and anti white attacks has nothing to do with gender or race--- it has to do specifically with the fact that you make personal attacks against all who disagree with you and advocate ideas which are simply stupid.
    The deeply racist Quackquack likes to pretend that he must represent all white people.
    But, in fact, at least several white writers here (ranging from No1Marauder to Zahlanzi)
    already have condemned Quackquack's racism in earlier threads.

    Does Quackquack need to be reminded by quotations of other white people
    condemning his racism and lying?
  15. Zugzwang
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    @rowin-side said
    Ok we get it.
    A lot of white people don't like other races.
    That will never change.
    All this racial talk in the media is creating more division.
    You are wasting your time and your life worrying about it.
    If you were unbiased it would stimulate conversation but you are biased.
    You never talk about other races when they are being racist.

    You Duchess64 are no different than a white supremacist. You just play on a different team.

    You are wasting your life.
    The apparently racist Rowin-side prefers to ignore the fact that some white people
    are much more critical than he of white racism and are working to change it.

    https://everydayfeminism.com/2014/07/8-things-white-people-race/

    "8 Things White People Really Need to Understand About Race"

    "Politics in the United States, whether advanced by Republicans or Democrats, have
    by and large created, reinforced, and entrenched White supremacy in our systems.

    Thus, racism is a White people problem, not a partisan problem. Until we as White people
    understand our own investment in ending racial oppression, there will be plenty of people
    all across the political spectrum who will say and do racist things and, more dangerously,
    pass racist policies

    If we want to end racism, White people need to do more listening.
    Something that often offends White people (especially since we can be socialized
    to believe we’re experts on anything and everything) is the idea that there are
    many, many things about race and racism in the United States that we inherently
    do not understand because we are White."
    --Jamie Utt (a white American man)

    I am glad that Jamie Utt's on my side. He's morally worth more than all the white racists here.

    Rowin-side apparently wants all criticism of white racism to be silenced.

    Based upon the endemic racism and common sexism in this forum, one may conclude
    that many white men (privately) want to return to the Golden Age when only
    white men could vote and hold public office.
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