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  1. 14 Dec '17 18:14
    We have all seen evangelicals campaign against homosexuals, but then seemingly turn a blind eye to other sins or are more forgiving of other sins. People then deride their hypocrisy regarding holding some sins to be condemned above other sins.

    However, today we see this in the secular world. Is anyone all that concerned if a Congressman gets pulled over for a DWI? What if they are shown not to pay their taxes? Is there a lynch mob out to take them down for such "sins"?

    It seems to me that this is simply how human beings are wired.

    What say you?
  2. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    14 Dec '17 18:41
    Originally posted by @whodey
    We have all seen evangelicals campaign against homosexuals, but then seemingly turn a blind eye to other sins or are more forgiving of other sins. People then deride their hypocrisy regarding holding some sins to be condemned above other sins.

    However, today we see this in the secular world. Is anyone all that concerned if a Congressman gets pulled over ...[text shortened]... such "sins"?

    It seems to me that this is simply how human beings are wired.

    What say you?
    A DUI has no victim (unless, of course, it does, in which case it is treated much more severely).

    Sexual harassment and assault has victims, by definition.
  3. 14 Dec '17 19:20
    Originally posted by @whodey
    We have all seen evangelicals campaign against homosexuals, but then seemingly turn a blind eye to other sins or are more forgiving of other sins. People then deride their hypocrisy regarding holding some sins to be condemned above other sins.

    However, today we see this in the secular world. Is anyone all that concerned if a Congressman gets pulled over ...[text shortened]... such "sins"?

    It seems to me that this is simply how human beings are wired.

    What say you?
    So because this is how people are "wired", we should just ignore rape, sexual harassment, the fact that congressmen have used taxpayer money to pay off women who they attacked so they could avoid the publicity and possible jail time? Sexual harassment, rape and violence against women in homes, educational setting, government and the work place from the lowest paid hotel cleaning woman to high paid actresses is a disgusting aspect of life in the United States. However, the only reason it is getting attention now is because both the legitimate news and women of wealth and along with the power that gives them, have come forward. Also, the fact that Trump, our dismal president, has admitted to assaulting women (yes grabbing someone by their vagina without their consent is assault) has also helped propel this into the limelight. However, if shooting down children in an elementary school did not result in any changes in or gun laws, I'm not sure the #MeToo movement will result in any significant change. That said, it did enable a Democrat to get elected to the Senate in Alabama. That is wonderful. However, 66% of the white women who voted in that election, voted for the pedophile, Moore.
  4. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    14 Dec '17 23:36
    Originally posted by @phranny
    So because this is how people are "wired", we should just ignore rape, sexual harassment, the fact that congressmen have used taxpayer money to pay off women who they attacked so they could avoid the publicity and possible jail time? Sexual harassment, rape and violence against women in homes, educational setting, government and the work place from the lowe ...[text shortened]... ul. However, 66% of the white women who voted in that election, voted for the pedophile, Moore.
    Well said, sister, but even though we've come a long way, baby, we still apparently have a long way to go.
  5. 14 Dec '17 23:43
    Originally posted by @phranny
    So because this is how people are "wired", we should just ignore rape, sexual harassment, the fact that congressmen have used taxpayer money to pay off women who they attacked so they could avoid the publicity and possible jail time? Sexual harassment, rape and violence against women in homes, educational setting, government and the work place from the lowe ...[text shortened]... ul. However, 66% of the white women who voted in that election, voted for the pedophile, Moore.
    Funny how you think only males are guilty of rape.
  6. 14 Dec '17 23:47 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @phranny
    So because this is how people are "wired", we should just ignore rape, sexual harassment, the fact that congressmen have used taxpayer money to pay off women who they attacked so they could avoid the publicity and possible jail time? Sexual harassment, rape and violence against women in homes, educational setting, government and the work place from the lowe ...[text shortened]... ul. However, 66% of the white women who voted in that election, voted for the pedophile, Moore.
    shocker!!! men are not the only ones that rape...
    http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a19495/women-raped-by-women/

    http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/30155267/college-women-rape-college-men-but-few-men-tell
  7. 14 Dec '17 23:59
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Well said, sister, but even though we've come a long way, baby, we still apparently have a long way to go.
    Funny how you seem to think that sexual harassment only involves women victims.
  8. 15 Dec '17 00:02
    Originally posted by @sh76
    A DUI has no victim (unless, of course, it does, in which case it is treated much more severely).

    Sexual harassment and assault has victims, by definition.
    What about tax evasion? Are there victims there? Why is it Obama tried to appoint people to his cabinet who later had to withdraw because it was found that they did not pay their taxes, but people just laughed about it is all?

    What about lying to the American people? How can politicians lie with impunity even though people become victims of the lying?

    Again, why is sexual harassment so much worse?
  9. 15 Dec '17 00:39
    Sexual sins are the only sins where a man sins against his own body.
  10. Standard member vivify
    rain
    15 Dec '17 00:45 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Sexual sins are the only sins where a man sins against his own body.
    What about gluttony? Sloth? Pride? Drug use? Suicide?

    The bible days whoever attacks his wife attacks his own body.
  11. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    15 Dec '17 01:22
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    shocker!!! men are not the only ones that rape...
    http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/a19495/women-raped-by-women/

    http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/30155267/college-women-rape-college-men-but-few-men-tell
    If men were raped with the frequency that women are raped, it would have ended long, long, long ago.

    All this argument does is minimize what is mainly a crime against women.
  12. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    15 Dec '17 01:24
    Originally posted by @whodey
    Funny how you seem to think that sexual harassment only involves women victims.
    And overcoming this kind of naysaying is part of the long way we still have to go.
  13. Subscriber Suzianne
    Misfit Queen
    15 Dec '17 01:28
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Funny how you think only males are guilty of rape.
    Funny how you think men raping women isn't a big enough problem to talk about on its own.
  14. Subscriber mchill
    cryptogram
    15 Dec '17 01:41
    Originally posted by @suzianne
    Funny how you think men raping women isn't a big enough problem to talk about on its own.
    There are male chastity devices. They come with locks and keys too. It may sound weird, but some marriage counselors that actually suggest these for over aggressive males. Maybe we need more lady key holders.
  15. 15 Dec '17 02:18
    Originally posted by @vivify
    What about gluttony? Sloth? Pride? Drug use? Suicide?

    The bible days whoever attacks his wife attacks his own body.
    Indeed.

    So why are sexual sins so much worse?