Originally posted by KazetNagorra
In an armed conflict, any time is the time to talk.
The term "armed conflict" already utterly misrepresents what is taking place in Palestine.
There is no balance of force whatsoever.
Hamas were sponsored by Mossad and the CIA to undermine the secular Fatah movement. They would not exist without that support - Fatah had no time for Islamic politics and many Palestinians are not Muslims; indeed, some are / were Jews or married to Jews.
Hamas are concentrated in the Gaza Strip, a small and unproductive strip of land which functions as a concentration camp for up to 2 million refugees expelled from Israeli territory in a process of violent ethnic cleansing which continues today. They are self governing in the sense that prisoners of war can manage their own affairs within a prison camp. They are entirely controlled by the IDF - an occupying power in the full meaning of international law - and their welfare is the responsibility of the Israeli state.
Anti-semitism is part of the Zionist armoury - where it does not exist, they work to invent it, using false flag operations and propaganda. They apply it as a term of abuse for anyone opposed to the Zionist cause. It has been rendered into a meaningless political label by misuse. The correct term must be racism, and the racist nature of the apartheid Israeli state is irrefutable.
This is not an "armed conflict." Zionists entered Palestine with immense financial backing and set about settling a land that was already occupied by a peaceful, tolerant, diverse and productive people. To this end, they used diverse methods including a long term, vicious programme of terrorist violence and murders, to systematically push Palestinians off their own land and replace them with settlers from other countries. The settler movement has never come to an end - presently the number of illegal settlers in so called "Palestinian" territory (which Palestinians do not of course actually control at all) having passed 600,000 by now. The concept of a two state solution was always a temporary smoke screen for an expanding Jewish apartheid state.
In this context, how are Palestinians actually expected to respond to the ongoing programme of ethnic cleansing?
All the evidence shows that Palestinians have been largely non violent in the face of aggression. Where there has been violence of a terrorist nature, it has never had the most remote similarity to the levels of violence and murder to which the Palestinians are subjected.
What is the point in talking to Hamas? What will we talk about? They are powerless and entirely under the control of the Israeli state.
Some of us always have talked to Palestinians. They turn up at English universities as students for example. They make poetry which we read. A few, like Edward Said, make a significant cultural impact. They typically have just the one head, just the two hands. We can talk to them about anything under the sun but they can't change anything whatsoever about conditions in Palestine because they have no power and no influence.
The US subsidises Israeli Jews per head at a level far greater than their support for their own people. Foreign support for Palestinians is siphoned off to benefit Israelis instead. What is built for their benefit is later destrohyed by the IDF. The Israelis enjoy a fine standard of living, unconcerned - or vaguely bothered perhaps if they are nice Israelis - about the fate of their Palestinian neighbours, or the Palestinians displaced from the very houses they occupy, or the Palestinian villages razed to the ground and trampled under their feet. Their education system manufactures wave after wave of bigots prepared for military service against a faceless enemy, whom they are taught to hate. Their legal system has been placed under the control of Orthodox religious authorities obsessed with foreskins and maternal lineage. Those without wealth rely on the benefits of subsidised, cheap housing in the ever expanding settlements and enjoy full military protection if Palestinians try to assert any of their own rights in land or water. (Americans get tax relief on charitable donations to fund such illegal settlements!)
They are not going to be influenced by anything done by Hamas. They are living in a racist fantasy land in which they are the superior race and everyone else is unclean if not unhuman.