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  1. 22 Jul '11 21:48
    They created the largest empire in history from their tiny little crummy island , controlling one fourth of the world, by population and land mass, plus their influence expanded far beyond that, giving a common language and legal system to a great deal more.

    What's up with that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
  2. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    22 Jul '11 21:58
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    They created the largest empire in history from their tiny little crummy island , controlling one fourth of the world, by population and land mass, plus their influence expanded far beyond that, giving a common language and legal system to a great deal more.

    What's up with that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
    Inspired you, did I?
  3. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    22 Jul '11 22:01
    The British Empire is another empire that comes to mind as an example of the lack of correlation between the "greatness" of an empire and its geographical size. It was largest sometime around the late 1940s, I think; but its superpower days were well behind it (sometime before WWI).
  4. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    22 Jul '11 22:46
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    They created the largest empire in history from their tiny little crummy island , controlling one fourth of the world, by population and land mass, plus their influence expanded far beyond that, giving a common language and legal system to a great deal more.

    What's up with that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
    Ruthless killers with the best navy.

    As empires go, it didn't last very long.
  5. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    22 Jul '11 22:56
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    They created the largest empire in history from their tiny little crummy island , controlling one fourth of the world, by population and land mass, plus their influence expanded far beyond that, giving a common language and legal system to a great deal more.

    What's up with that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
    Strategic tolerance (look up Amy Chua, I can give you a link if you want). The English have a long history demonstrating their knack for slaughtering opposition, subjugating it culturally, occupying it's land and then making it a lesser ally and harnessing it for use against the next target.
  6. 22 Jul '11 23:01
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Ruthless killers with the best navy.

    As empires go, it didn't last very long.
    Far-called our navies melt away—
    On dune and headland sinks the fire—
    Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
    Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
  7. 22 Jul '11 23:14
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Ruthless killers with the best navy.

    As empires go, it didn't last very long.
    Sounds more like you are describing Japan 1935-1945
  8. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    22 Jul '11 23:23
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    Sounds more like you are describing Japan 1935-1945
    The Japanese Navy was hardly the best; it was essentially totally defeated within a year after Pearl Harbor.
  9. 22 Jul '11 23:38
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    The Japanese Navy was hardly the best; it was essentially totally defeated within a year after Pearl Harbor.
    http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm
  10. 22 Jul '11 23:42
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    They created the largest empire in history from their tiny little crummy island , controlling one fourth of the world, by population and land mass, plus their influence expanded far beyond that, giving a common language and legal system to a great deal more.

    What's up with that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
    I suppose the real strenght of the British empire was to succeed where the empires of Portugal, Spain, France, etc failed.

    Britain, as its empire was still in expanding, didn't have its colonies significantly affected by the Napoleonic wars unlike other european countries, the single most important reason why their imperial possessions in the americas were lost to independence movements. Britain's relative decentralization of power in regards to their empire, and their influence over the global trade were other reasons why they secured their vast conquests.

    Above all however, It was probably their military supremacy, had they lost to France in the Napoleonic wars, or to the Germans in WWI Im sure it would all have been a different story. The de facto status of the english language as the world's lingua franca is indeed quite an achievement, but Im not sure this is primarily a product of the British empire as it existed in its zenith, I'd say that was more down to America's ascension as a global superpower. As for the legal system, I'd say this was an area where French or continental european influence generally prevailed, given most countries in the world have adopted a civil law system, and not a common law one.
  11. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    22 Jul '11 23:44
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm
    Their naval tradition was an inefficient imitation of the English naval tradition - USA and UK.
  12. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    22 Jul '11 23:55
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    They created the largest empire in history from their tiny little crummy island , controlling one fourth of the world, by population and land mass, plus their influence expanded far beyond that, giving a common language and legal system to a great deal more.

    What's up with that?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire
    Being smart didn't hurt.
  13. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    22 Jul '11 23:59
    Originally posted by bill718
    Being smart didn't hurt.
    East Asians regularly test as having higher IQ than whites (except Ashkenazi Jews, they test highest).
  14. 23 Jul '11 00:07
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    East Asians regularly test as having higher IQ than whites (except Ashkenazi Jews, they test highest).
    Who scores the lowest?
  15. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    23 Jul '11 00:10 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Zapp Brannigan
    Who scores the lowest?
    Cultures with shorter histories of beaurocratic test taking and literacy. East Asians have ancient histories of Byzantine scholarly beaurocracy, and Jews have been literate longer than almost anybody except Sumerians and maybe Chinese.