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  1. 01 Jul '15 21:33
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/16/at-this-rate-american-women-wont-see-equal-pay-until-2058/


    enjoy some numbers. if you have a penis, be glad you have it.
  2. Standard member vivify
    rain
    01 Jul '15 21:52 / 1 edit
    Why wage gap is a myth (some swearing):

    YouTube
  3. 01 Jul '15 22:00
    Why classify people by gender?

    I'm a guy and I don't make as much as many men or women. You need to quit being a sexist and start looking at people as individuals.
  4. 01 Jul '15 22:14 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Why classify people by gender?

    I'm a guy and I don't make as much as many men or women. You need to quit being a sexist and start looking at people as individuals.
    Indeed I am working at the home of a lady judge tomorrow, she gets paid way more than me. Ladies are great at spending money, if they get more pay it can only be good for the economy!
  5. 01 Jul '15 22:16
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/16/at-this-rate-american-women-wont-see-equal-pay-until-2058/


    enjoy some numbers. if you have a penis, be glad you have it.
    have you painted yours rainbow colored yet?
  6. 02 Jul '15 00:53
    Originally posted by vivify
    Why wage gap is a myth (some swearing):

    [youtube]BDj_bN0L8XM[/youtube]
    there are plenty ilustrious minds like him on youtube.
  7. 02 Jul '15 00:54
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Indeed I am working at the home of a lady judge tomorrow, she gets paid way more than me. Ladies are great at spending money, if they get more pay it can only be good for the economy!
    are you a judge of equal experience and talent?
  8. 02 Jul '15 00:55
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Why classify people by gender?

    I'm a guy and I don't make as much as many men or women. You need to quit being a sexist and start looking at people as individuals.
    i am

    an individual that happens to have a penis, with the same experience and education as an individual that doesn't, will get paid more
  9. Standard member vivify
    rain
    02 Jul '15 00:56
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    there are plenty ilustrious minds like him on youtube.
    But he makes a valid point. I'm really not into posting YouTube links very often, but he articulates some ideas I've had on this pretty well.
  10. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    02 Jul '15 01:03
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/16/at-this-rate-american-women-wont-see-equal-pay-until-2058/


    enjoy some numbers. if you have a penis, be glad you have it.
    From my experience, the opposite sex organ seems to do better in gaining more pay.
  11. 02 Jul '15 01:18
    Originally posted by vivify
    But he makes a valid point. I'm really not into posting YouTube links very often, but he articulates some ideas I've had on this pretty well.
    i went to the link he provided. rambling but one line stood out:
    "My own theory, completely unsubstantiated by any studies or research"

    Among the rambling, two ideas stood out.
    "Women make up about 51% of the workforce, according to the US Department of Labor1. So either companies don't want to save 23% on their wages, or the "77%" wage gap number is bull****, because both can't be true."
    the companies do save 23% on salaries, they pay their women employees less. the notion that companies could only hire women is ludicrous.

    and the following is spread through many paragraphs so i am paraphrasing what i THINK he meant:
    jobs with fewer responsibilities are more attractive to women.
    this again is beside the point as the issue here is not (yet) how women don't get into leadership positions as often as men but how a woman, on an identical position as a man, makes less than him, is promoted less than him.


    oh one last thing: quotes a psych study from which he concludes that basically women are cra*py negotiators and it's their fault they aren't paid as much as men. which is another admission from him that yes, women make less.
  12. 02 Jul '15 01:28
    Originally posted by vivify
    Why wage gap is a myth (some swearing):

    [youtube]BDj_bN0L8XM[/youtube]
    and since we're listing links:

    in response to
    http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf

    there is
    http://amptoons.com/blog/2010/11/26/how-the-consad-report-on-the-wage-gap-masks-sexism-instead-of-measuring-it/
  13. 02 Jul '15 01:40
    heard about this nice little experiment from somewhere else and found it at this link explained in detail

    http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/unofficial-prognosis/study-shows-gender-bias-in-science-is-real-heres-why-it-matters/


    tl;dr version:
    a resume for a position was given to scientists. all received identical resumes, but some had a male name as the applicant and some had a female name. the starting salary offered for the same application was $26,507.94 for females compared to $30,238.10 offered to males. .

    "Results found that the “female” applicants were rated significantly lower than the “males” in competence, hireability, and whether the scientist would be willing to mentor the student."
  14. 02 Jul '15 02:15 / 2 edits
    Oh you know what...screw this.
    I retired 6 months ago as a high school teacher then got a job at Target, unloading trucks and stocking shelves. (Just to keep busy)
    You know who is in charge and telling all the guys what to do?
    Women.
    The store manager is a woman...most of the "team Leaders" are women, and the people that are doing all the stoop labor work are men, so blow that nonsense out your az$
  15. 02 Jul '15 03:35
    Originally posted by Zahlanzi
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/03/16/at-this-rate-american-women-wont-see-equal-pay-until-2058/


    enjoy some numbers. if you have a penis, be glad you have it.
    Why would a woman work for the money if she can just spend the money of the fool that makes it for her?