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If we have Medicare For All….. anyone with private health insurance loses it. They hand their health insurance over to the federal government and the decision-making over to the people in that government such as Peggy Flanagan. You understand that.?
I can’t imagine stagnation in the field. If that were to happen I do not think any of them calling for Medicare for All understand what it would cost, …. do they understand that all of the medical innovations that come out of our country would be strangled if the government took it all over? We invented the pacemaker,,,?govt gonna do that?!?! would people come here to get medical attention from places like the UK and canada, where you’ve got to wait in line forever. Does everyone want to do that. I don’t think so.

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Americans spend more in private health insurance than any other country, yet the quality of health care is far worse:

https://www.numbeo.com/health-care/rankings_by_country.jsp

The U.S. ranks 41st in healthcare despite Americans spending way more than any other country on private insurance.

The current system of private healthcare is only getting worse.

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@vivify said
Americans spend more in private health insurance than any other country, yet the quality of health care is far worse:

https://www.numbeo.com/health-care/rankings_by_country.jsp

The U.S. ranks 41st in healthcare despite Americans spending way more than any other country on private insurance.

The current system of private healthcare is only getting worse.
Yeah but at least we have the freedom to choose the worst healthcare for the most money in the world.

On average, a family of four pays somewhere on the order of $30,000 per year for insurance,,, per year, even before out of pocket costs. And, many people don't even realize that the cost of drugs is LOWER if you just pay cash without insurance.

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@wildgrass said
And, many people don't even realize that the cost of drugs is LOWER if you just pay cash without insurance.
That's because many such places don't take cash payments. I tried paying cash to see a doctor when I was younger and I was REQUIRED to have insurance pay for it.

That was in upstate NY, not sure if it's different anywhere else, but that was some B.S. Even if you have the money, they still require you to use private insurance.


@AverageJoe1 said
If we have Medicare For All….. anyone with private health insurance loses it. They hand their health insurance over to the federal government and the decision-making over to the people in that government such as Peggy Flanagan. You understand that.?
I can’t imagine stagnation in the field. If that were to happen I do not think any of them calling for Medicare for All ...[text shortened]... canada, where you’ve got to wait in line forever. Does everyone want to do that. I don’t think so.
So tell me why your GOD Trump has not come up with a health plan? CONCEPT of one, now about 10 years old. I guess he is too busy grifting billions as a sitting POTUS to worry about ANY problems of common folk, because he ONLY listens AFTER a sufficiently large 'donation' appears in Trumps bank account, THEN they can talk to Trump and explain how they REALLY want this military contract, he goes well lets see, you only gave me one million, the price these days for special treatment goes for TEN million now. Or you could buy 10 mil in my bitcoin scam.....


@sonhouse said
So tell me why your GOD Trump has not come up with a health plan? CONCEPT of one, now about 10 years old. I guess he is too busy grifting billions as a sitting POTUS to worry about ANY problems of common folk, because he ONLY listens AFTER a sufficiently large 'donation' appears in Trumps bank account, THEN they can talk to Trump and explain how they REALLY want this militar ...[text shortened]... days for special treatment goes for TEN million now. Or you could buy 10 mil in my bitcoin scam.....
Ogod he’s back


@wildgrass said
Yeah but at least we have the freedom to choose the worst healthcare for the most money in the world.

On average, a family of four pays somewhere on the order of $30,000 per year for insurance,,, per year, even before out of pocket costs. And, many people don't even realize that the cost of drugs is LOWER if you just pay cash without insurance.
30.000??

Obviously you jest.


>We invented the pacemaker

Since you clearly have an absolute ton of free time seeing how much you’re here, why don’t you take the time to read the interesting Wiki-page on pacemakers?

In your defence: yes, some Americans were also involved.

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@shavixmir said
30.000??

Obviously you jest.
Nope. It's slightly cheaper if you go through Obamacare, something like $1,800 per month for a family of four.

And we wonder why people don't have kids anymore.

Conservatives love to gripe about Obamacare but you couldn't force them to describe a better alternative plan. Concepts of a plan, I'm told by Republicans.


@Great-King-Rat said
>We invented the pacemaker

Since you clearly have an absolute ton of free time seeing how much you’re here, why don’t you take the time to read the interesting Wiki-page on pacemakers?

In your defence: yes, some Americans were also involved.
Settle, little fella. So who was this guy?

Twist it and turn it, a lib trait.

https://www.hrsonline.org/about-hrs/history/40th-anniversary/wilson-greatbatch/


@AverageJoe1 said
Settle, little fella. So who was this guy?

Twist it and turn it, a lib trait.

https://www.hrsonline.org/about-hrs/history/40th-anniversary/wilson-greatbatch/
He's one of many, many people involved in the invention of the pacemaker.

Which you'd know if you'd bother to read the wiki, in-between your busy schedule of creating and reading forum posts.

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@Great-King-Rat said
He's one of many, many people involved in the invention of the pacemaker.

Which you'd know if you'd bother to read the wiki, in-between your busy schedule of creating and reading forum posts.
Let’s split hairs and give you the winning post!!!! I had never heard of Senming until today. Hell, there was somebody in Europe probably that got a contraption off the ground before the Wright brothers did. But as in this case, maybe it was not as good as the Wright Brothers, and Sennings was not as good as Greatbatch’s!


Wilson Greatbatch, Pacemaker Inventor, Dies at 92 - The New ...
American engineer Wilson Greatbatch accidentally invented the first implantable cardiac pacemaker in 1956. While building a device to record heart sounds, he installed the wrong resistor by mistake. The circuit produced regular electrical pulses that mimicked a human heartbeat, inspiring him to create a compact, life-saving device. ”
However, however, I say…..

The Wilson Greatbatch pacemaker was considered superior to the Åke Senning (Elmqvist-Senning) design because it used efficient mercury-zinc batteries and had lower current drain, which allowed the device to run independently for years.

Thanks for your post. You are a nice poster. Maybe you could answer some of my questions.!!!


@AverageJoe1 said
Let’s split hairs and give you the winning post!!!! I had never heard of Senming until today. Hell, there was somebody in Europe probably that got a contraption off the ground before the Wright brothers did. But as in this case, maybe it was not as good as the Wright Brothers, and Sennings was not as good as Greatbatch’s!


Wilson Greatbatch, Pacemaker Inventor, Di ...[text shortened]... rs.

Thanks for your post. You are a nice poster. Maybe you could answer some of my questions.!!!
Why? You have no interest in learning anything. Why should anyone answer you?