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  1. Standard member sasquatch672
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    15 Jul '13 13:56
    Certainly, this article takes a dim view of the liberal media. But the article also accurately reports on the liberal media's reporting.

    by John Nolte 13 Jul 2013 1997


    As we await the verdict in the trial of George Zimmerman, the Florida man who claims to have shot and killed teenager Trayvon Martin in self-defense, this seems the perfect time to reflect on the media's cynical and dishonest role in turning a local crime into a national obsession.

    As you will see below, by hook and crook, the mainstream media did everything in its still-potent power to not only push for the prosecution of Mr. Zimmerman (the police originally chose not to charge him) but also to gin up racial tensions where none needed to exist.

    It all started with the anchor of a major television network (Al Sharpton) inserting himself in the story to spread division and hate; it continued straight through to the closing days of the trial when another major news network, desperate to keep a fabricated racial narrative alive, propagated the portrayal of Zimmerman as part of a racial group that doesn't exist -- the "white Hispanic."

    In-between, there has been an astonishing amount of malicious fraud and lies, all in an effort to serve a president, stir racial hatred, and influence the justice system.




    February 26, 2012 - George Zimmerman Shoots and Kills Trayvon Martin

    Zimmerman claims self-defense. After an investigation, the police agree and decide not to press charges.



    March 8, 2012 - The AP Falsely Describes Zimmerman as "White"

    The story of the grieving parents of Trayvon Martin demanding Zimmerman be arrested first achieves national attention on March 8 when CBS This Morning runs a report.

    Later that same day, the Associated Press throws the first log on the racial fire by inaccurately describing Zimmerman as white.



    March 13, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Uses MSNBC Platform to Stoke Phony Racial Narrative

    Breitbart editor-in-chief Joel Pollak:

    Sharpton devoted a portion of his program on MSNBC, PoliticsNation, to the Trayvon Martin case. He interviewed Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, who reiterated the accusation that Zimmerman was “white”: “We think Trayvon Martin didn’t know who the heck this white man was who approached him before he got killed.”

    Earlier that same day, Sharpton's National Action Network released a statement calling for...

    ...a “complete and thorough investigation” into Martin’s death. He added: “[W]e are told that racial language was used when the young man reported his suspicions to police[.]”

    The story about Zimmerman's use of racial language was false.



    March 13, 2012 - ABC News Reporter Claims Trayvon Shot Because "He Was Black"

    About ten days before Al Sharpton and President Obama would launch the Zimmerman story into the stratosphere, Matt Gutman, an ABC News correspondent based in Miami, Florida, was already (and without a shred of evidence) laying the track for a racial narrative.

    Gutman covered the case for the network, and his Twitter feed at the time was full of falsehoods, innuendo, and irresponsible speculation. In one tweet, Gutman came right out and claimed Trayvon was shot "bc [because] he was black."

    Gutman would also recklessly accuse Zimmerman of "stalking" and shooting down Trayvon.




    March 19, 2012 - CBS News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Is White

    A small detail that the Obama administration and the media apparently missed was that the white versus black racial narrative they were preparing to invest so much into was missing just one thing: a white person.

    Proof of this is that CBS News falsely claimed Zimmerman was white about a week before the story exploded.

    In their venomous zeal, the media and Democrats likely assumed that someone with the last name Zimmerman had to be white. But they were wrong, as Zimmerman is Hispanic.

    Never ones to back off a good narrative, rather than use this revelation to tamp down tensions or correct their reporting, the media simply made up out of whole cloth a new racial category: the "white Hispanic."



    March 22, 2012 - Zimmerman Described as a "White Hispanic" by The New York Times

    Just in the nick of time, before the story was engineered to explode the very next day with the Sharpton rally, The New York Times put its stamp of approval on the term "white Hispanic."




    March 21, 2012 - CNN Falsely Accuses Zimmerman of Saying "[EDITED]Coon"

    Knowing full well the phony racial storm brewing around the Zimmerman case was about to have gasoline thrown on it the next day, CNN went to extraordinary lengths to claim Zimmerman had uttered the racial slur "coon" when he had not.

    This has to be watched to be believed.

    CNN wouldn't officially retract their defamation until April 5th, long after it was too late.



    March 22, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Goes to Florida

    Though the police had investigated the shooting and saw no reason to charge George Zimmerman, in March of 2012, President Obama's reelection chances looked dim. He would need the crucial swing state of Florida to win another four years, and nothing brings out the Democrat vote like a good old racial bonfire.

    With the help of thousands of dollars from Obama's Justice Department, it was then that Rev. Al Sharpton (anchor of MSNBC's Politics Nation) held his incendiary rally:

    At the protest, Sharpton was flanked by Martin's parents. "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," he said. "Trayvon could have been any one of us."

    He continued:

    "We are tired of going to jail for nothing and others going home for something. Zimmerman should have been arrested that night ... you cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don't talk to us like we're stupid! Don't talk to us like we're ignorant! We love our children like you love yours. Lock him up!"

    Sharpton said that he would stay on the case.

    "We cannot allow a legal precedent to be established in this city that tells us it is legal for a man to kill us, tell any story he wants, and walks out with the murder weapon," he said.




    March 23, 2012 - President Obama Repeats Sharpton's Talking Point

    The day after Sharpton held his rally and said, "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," President Obama made huge news when he stepped before the cameras, demanded action in the Zimmerman case, and famously said, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."

    In just two days, a network news anchor and an American president had blasted the Zimmerman case into the nation's top story and did so based on a racial narrative without a shred of evidence to support it. Almost every other major news outlet would now commit every journalistic sin imaginable to fabricate evidence.



    March 24, 2012 - Reuters Describes Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic"

    To keep the white versus black narrative alive, Reuters jumps on the ridiculous "white Hispanic" bandwagon.

    Many others would follow.




    March 27, 2012 - NBC News Edits 911 Audio to Make Zimmerman Look Racist

    On the storied Today Show, NBC News told America Zimmerman said this on the 911 call:

    Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

    When the truth is that the unedited audio actually went like this:

    Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

    Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

    Zimmerman: He looks black.

    After the fraudulent editing was discovered by the New Media (first by Breitbart News), former NBC News president Steve Capus would claim that the edit was "a mistake and not a deliberate act to misrepresent the phone call."

    Eventually, several NBC producers would be fired (without being named), and Zimmerman would file a lawsuit against NBC; it remains unresolved.



    March 28, 2012 - ABC News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Wasn't Injured Night of Shooting

    The day after NBC News released its falsified 911 bombshell, ABC News released a phony, hyped-up story of its own. Using grainy surveillance video of Zimmerman at the police station on the night of the shooting, ABC News claimed, "A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman."

    Obviously, if true, this would go a long way towards proving Zimmerman was not in fear of his life the night of the shooting and had lied about being beaten up.

    The only problem is that the ABC News story was not true -- not even close. The network didn't bother to enhance the video before breaking the news. Had they, Zimmerman's bloody head would have been quite apparent.

    It would take four days for ABC to retract its falsehood.



    March 28, 2012 - Boston Globe Falsely Describes Zimmerman as White

    By late March it was widely known that George Zimmerman was Hispanic. This did not stop the Boston Globe from using its pages to describe him as "a white neighborhood watch captain."

    This error has never been corrected.




    March 29, 2012 - NBC's Chris Matthews Contradicts Guest to Claim Zimmerman Not Injured

    By the next day, ABC's false story about Zimmerman not being injured had already gone viral. However, some were already doing the job ABC apparently didn't want to do: enhancing the video. A guest on MSNBC's Hardball told the show's host, Chris Matthews, that his enhancement did show bruises on the back of Zimmerman's head. MSNBC even broadcast the enhancement, which clearly showed cuts and bruising.

    Regardless, during the same show, Matthews stridently claimed:

    George Zimmerman says he shot Trayvon Martin after Trayvon broke his nose and repeatedly slammed the back of his head into a concrete sidewalk, but newly released video tape of Z...
  2. 15 Jul '13 14:37
    Since claims about race are intrinsically subjective, a claim about it can't really be "false".
  3. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    15 Jul '13 14:40
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Since claims about race are intrinsically subjective, a claim about it can't really be "false".
    What?!

    You're just jerking our chain here, right?
  4. 15 Jul '13 14:47
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    What?!

    You're just jerking our chain here, right?
    From Wikipedia:

    Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, or social affiliation.
  5. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    15 Jul '13 14:49
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    From Wikipedia:

    Race is a classification system used to categorize humans into large and distinct populations or groups by anatomical, cultural, ethnic, genetic, geographical, historical, linguistic, religious, or social affiliation.
    Are you saying then that it is not possible to lie about race?
  6. 15 Jul '13 15:01 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Are you saying then that it is not possible to lie about race?
    Yes. Of course it isn't. While most people would agree that Oasis makes dreadfully awful music, child-sacrificing satanists who claim otherwise are not lying.

    It is possible that certain media sources, intentionally or not, mischaracterised Zimmerman's opinion about what his race is. Or they simply disagreed.
  7. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    15 Jul '13 15:11
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Yes. Of course it isn't. While most people would agree that Oasis makes dreadfully awful music, child-sacrificing satanists who claim otherwise are not lying.

    It is possible that certain media sources, intentionally or not, mischaracterised Zimmerman's opinion about what his race is. Or they simply disagreed.
    Ok KN, whatever. Most people call intentional mischaracterizations lies.
  8. 15 Jul '13 15:17
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Ok KN, whatever. Most people call intentional mischaracterizations lies.
    No, you misunderstand. You can't "lie" about someone's race; it's semantically impossible to "lie" about something that is intrinsically subjective. You can lie about what someone thinks their race is. Whether this is the case here I wouldn't know, it would depend on whether it was claimed or implied that Zimmerman thinks he is white. But stating "Zimmerman is white" cannot possibly be a lie.
  9. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    15 Jul '13 15:23
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    No, you misunderstand. You can't "lie" about someone's race; it's semantically impossible to "lie" about something that is intrinsically subjective. You can lie about what someone thinks their race is. Whether this is the case here I wouldn't know, it would depend on whether it was claimed or implied that Zimmerman thinks he is white. But stating "Zimmerman is white" cannot possibly be a lie.
    Race is not intrinsically subjective. Certain definitions are almost universally accepted and if I intentionally make a statement that I know contravenes the generally accepted definition without qualifying my statement, that is a lie.

    Sure, if I say "Al Sharpton is white because I define people's races by the color of their teeth" that is not a lie.

    But if I say "Al Shapton is white," that is a lie because I am intentionally and knowingly make a statement that I know will be interpreted by people using a definition of general consensus as something other than the assertion I am making.
  10. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    15 Jul '13 15:31
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    No, you misunderstand. You can't "lie" about someone's race; it's semantically impossible to "lie" about something that is intrinsically subjective. You can lie about what someone thinks their race is. Whether this is the case here I wouldn't know, it would depend on whether it was claimed or implied that Zimmerman thinks he is white. But stating "Zimmerman is white" cannot possibly be a lie.
    How is a person's genetic makeup subjective?
  11. Standard member sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    15 Jul '13 16:17
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    How is a person's genetic makeup subjective?
    I think the bottom line here is the state law "Stand your ground'' was key to winning. Even the police didn't arrest Z till they were forced to by the AG.
  12. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    15 Jul '13 16:37
    AFAIK, GZ IS white. Hispanic is not a race and about half of hispanics in the US self-identity as "white" on census forms. The police report the night of the shooting identity him as "W/M" (http://www.dominionofnewyork.com/2012/04/05/finally-a-copy-of-the-police-report-from-trayvon-martin-killing/#.UeQkdI3yIgl)

    That's "white Male". Of course, the Sanford PD is part of the great, liberal media.....................................................
  13. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    15 Jul '13 16:50
    It must be very disappointing to right wing shills that the massive riots that they assured us would happen if GZ was acquitted have failed to materialize.
  14. Standard member sasquatch672
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    15 Jul '13 17:35
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    It must be very disappointing to right wing shills that the massive riots that they assured us would happen if GZ was acquitted have failed to materialize.
    So, while I can always safely assume you're talking about me when you say "right wing", I can also tell you that a) I am not disappointed that massive riots have not occurred; b) there have been reports of violence related to the verdict in major cities across the country, and c) left-wing shills like Piers Morgan were the ones raising the specter of riots, to say nothing of the "Twitterverse" threats, the Facebook page titled "Riot 4 Trayvon" and other similarly irresponsible sources inside the black and liberal communities advocating violence and unrest.

    The liberal media have been the entity most dishonest about all of this. They politicized this from the beginning and they told blatant lies to do it. You like to claim outrage when I "lie", and I also take note that you never retract your accusation when my "lie" turns out to be the truth. Where is your outrage now, that the liberal media is wholly exposed for systematically lying and in some cases completely fabricating statements about Zimmerman?
  15. Subscriber no1marauder
    It's Nice to Be Nice
    15 Jul '13 17:41 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by sasquatch672
    So, while I can always safely assume you're talking about me when you say "right wing", I can also tell you that a) I am not disappointed that massive riots have not occurred; b) there have been reports of violence related to the verdict in major cities across the country, and c) left-wing shills like Piers Morgan were the ones raising the specter of ri ematically lying and in some cases completely fabricating statements about Zimmerman?
    Like the "lie" he was White?

    I don't see conspiracy every time someone in the media, in an attempt to scoop competitors, releases something that turns out to be untrue. Surely the sources you consistently rely on do this all the time though you never admit it.