26 Jun 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhat if the manner in which you go about it, and your underlying motives, are simply part and parcel of the 'all else that has failed'?
When all else fails, the only sensible course of action is simply to ignore the people you can't stand. Only real issues still on the table are the manner in which you go about it and your underlying motives.
Originally posted by FMFYou hit the nail on the head. Motives always drive actions. If the motives failed because they were flawed then you, obviously, have been and continue to be the problem.
What if the manner in which you go about it, and your underlying motives, are simply part and parcel of the 'all else that has failed'?
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIndeed. So, when all else fails, the only sensible course of action may often be to simply conclude that you have failed completely and not try to bring other people into it.
You hit the nail on the head. Motives always drive actions. If the motives failed because they were flawed then you, obviously, have been and continue to be the problem.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyWhat you personally think is "sensible" is nobody's business, is it? I have never been in a situation like the one in the OP. My advice to you - if the OP in some way refers to you yourself - is to admit failure rather than blame others. if you "can't stand" people maybe it's because they are ok but you're not. Your OP doesn't make it sound like you're facing up to this possibility.
Since when was admitting failure and doing nothing about it the sensible thing to do?
Originally posted by FMFWell said, but don't feed the troll. I've noticed a trend of GB starting several threads and on one taking interest. With luck if this keeps up he'll just move on.
What you personally think is "sensible" is nobody's business, is it? I have never been in a situation like the one in the OP. My advice to you - if the OP in some way refers to you yourself - is to admit failure rather than blame others. if you "can't stand" people maybe it's because they are ok but you're not. Your OP doesn't make it sound like you're facing up to this possibility.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIn the immortal words of Pogo, "We have met the enemy and he is us."
When all else fails, the only sensible course of action is simply to ignore the people you can't stand. Only real issues still on the table are the manner in which you go about it and your underlying motives.
Originally posted by FMFNow we transition from the threshold to the crux of the matter. Previously we've been objectively swapping thoughts about a universal social problem, apparently inevitable at all levels and strata of human interaction (government, workplace, media, entertainment, professional sports, religion, families, social circles, even cyberspace chat rooms and public forums). Your mild childlike protest which claims you, "... have never been in a situation like the one in the OP" comes across as quite a revelation. The gross presumption justifying what comes next, "My advice to you..." blows me straight away. Your final ploy of prescribing appointments on your couch of psychological intervention and counseling leaves me speechless. Unfortunately, the value of your stock in trade on the public market plummeted Tuesday morning, June 26, 2012.
What you personally think is "sensible" is nobody's business, is it? I have never been in a situation like the one in the OP. My advice to you - if the OP in some way refers to you yourself - is to admit failure rather than blame others. if you "can't stand" people maybe it's because they are ok but you're not. Your OP doesn't make it sound like you're facing up to this possibility.
Originally posted by Shallow BlueShallow, there aren't any individual "people" in play. Where in the world did you manage to come up with that idea? Whatever I've learned about collective human behavior has been through osmosis in the school of hard knocks over many years. Purpose of the thread was, hopefully, to spark some thoughtful on-topic conversation. Let's face it, some people have been hiding in their cramped, dark closets for so long that the least ray of light seems to make them squint and cry 'foul'. Maybe the best possible outcome we could pray for is that a few of these timid, tortured souls awaken from their self induced slumber; tell themselves the truth for once in their life; wash their foul socks and undies, in private, or at least turn them inside out for a few days. Please bear in mind that we're talking about an abnormality of human behavior in the macrocosm, not fingering identities of sad examples in the present micrcosm of one public forum in the cyberspace realm.
Even if these "people" you seem to know so much about insist on spitting in everybody else's porridge?
Richard
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26 Jun 12
Originally posted by HandyAndy"Shallow, there aren't any individual "people" in play."
What if the people you can't stand can't stand you either? Is it a standoff?[/b]
Try to grasp the central idea and, then, get back to me. It's not a game. It's life and one of the requirements for staying afloat is to learn how to solve problems.