Originally posted by SwissGambit Here's another fun one:
[fen]3Q4/k7/p1P5/Pp6/K7/2q5/8/8 w - - 0 1[/fen]
Black has just played ...b7-b5+, and both players think that black has checkmate.
And then someone on a forum says "look up the en passant rule!" thus allowing white to win instead of black, even though both were ignorant of the rule.
Not true as the game would show as in progress and white to move 😛
That said black would win if white could not discover what move was available
Originally posted by KingDavid403 Yes I did. But it does not relate to this game or problem. Because it's a hypothesis. And I never responded to a game that had the set pieces of your hypothesis. So you see it does not relate.
Originally posted by Mctayto Not true as the game would show as in progress and white to move 😛
That said black would win if white could not discover what move was available
Originally posted by Diner Hank 6145235 - this is the game.
I'm white and I believe my opponent is in checkmate, but for some reason it says opponents move....
Originally posted by SwissGambit LOL! Brilliant reasoning, Holmes. 🙄
Thank you. Just sticking with the facts and reality about a past tense situation I've always thought is the only answer. Not what ifs, or lets says. Thanks again.
Can you show us a real game that happened as your hypothesis game? And don't forget that both players don't know the en passant rule also.
LOL 🙄
Let us clarify this once and for all. I have sent feedback on a situation involving the same position, (about three months ago.) I was told just one sentence - or at least only one important one. "Every player, in correspondence chess, has the right to know the rules."
Originally posted by Mctayto If the opponent did not find the move then he would get timed out. eg the outcome would not be affected
But it would be affected if someone gives a hint on a forum that causes him to learn of the move and thus continue playing when he would otherwise time out.
Once he takes en passant, it's possible that he comes back and wins the game later on.
Originally posted by KingDavid403 Thank you. Just sticking with the facts and reality about a past tense situation I've always thought is the only answer.
Originally posted by clandarkfire Let us clarify this once and for all. I have sent feedback on a situation involving the same position, (about three months ago.) I was told just one sentence - or at least only one important one. "Every player, in correspondence chess, has the right to know the rules."
Who sent the feedback?
I would think the examples I have presented show the folly of such a policy.
Originally posted by KingDavid403 I'm sorry I over reacted. I took it personal because I made the mistake. And my intentions were to only help without breaking any rules..
I do see your point and I think you and Monty are mostly right. As I said before I will be more careful in the future. I'm moving on now. 🙂 And it might be by boat due to the flooding going on here. 😲 :'(
you didn't make a mistake, don't let them think you have.
if this came up again i would tell the player why his game wasn't over. every player has a right to know the rules and if they ask a perfectly reasonable question i will always answer it. it wasn't even the guy's move, it's was his opponents and he even said he would tell his opponent of the move so they could continue the game.
chess players and phalp need to lighten up. tis only a game and this ISN'T an otb tournament where money is involved.
Originally posted by SwissGambit Who sent the feedback?
I would think the examples I have presented show the folly of such a policy.
Who sent the feedback? Read numskull. 🙄
I would think the examples I have presented show the folly of such a policy. Your examples are fake and phony and most likely never happened. How could they show anyone anything. Except that you're in a dream world and that you think you're a legend. In your own mind.
And who cares what you think. I sure don't.
Still having fun with stirring up the pot with this??
Originally posted by trev33 you didn't make a mistake, don't let them think you have.
if this came up again i would tell the player why his game wasn't over. every player has a right to know the rules and if they ask a perfectly reasonable question i will always answer it. it wasn't even the guy's move, it's was his opponents and he even said he would tell his opponent of the move so ...[text shortened]... to lighten up. tis only a game and this ISN'T an otb tournament where money is involved.
chess players and phalp need to lighten up. tis only a game and this ISN'T an otb tournament where money is involved. I agree. Thanks.
More specifically [for some of the more challenged members in the audience], who was it that told you [feedback to your feedback 😵] that "every player has a right to know the rules"?
More specifically [for some of the more challenged members in the audience], who was it that told you [feedback to your feedback 😵] that "every player has a right to know the rules"?
Oh yeah right, Nice way to play that one off.
If there's anyone that's a more challenged member it's you. Who do you think sent the feedback to his feedback. I would assume Russ or Chris or some other Qualified staff member here at RHP. Wouldn't you think? 🙄
Checkmate?
27 Mar '09 23:48
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