1. Subscribermlb62
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    23 Sep '17 21:53
    hope yifan hou doesnt throw another tantrum !! her first opponent was female---kosteniuk..who is a top class player too. it was a draw
  2. Standard memberbyedidia
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    24 Sep '17 01:50
    She's paired with Elisabeth Paehtz in round two.
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    24 Sep '17 12:38
    Originally posted by @byedidia
    She's paired with Elisabeth Paehtz in round two.
    my gosh..it must be a conspiracy.. Yifan is featured in the newest NEW-IN-CHESS magazine for her win at Biel
  4. Subscribersonhouse
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    24 Sep '17 16:03
    Originally posted by @byedidia
    She's paired with Elisabeth Paehtz in round two.
    How do they compare rating wise?
  5. Subscribermlb62
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    24 Sep '17 17:04
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    How do they compare rating wise?
    Yifan Hou is 2676...Paehtz is 2452 and is no pushover ..
  6. e4
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    25 Sep '17 17:33
    Nothing at all wrong with Yifan's draw. It's just how it happened.

    Infact there would have been a bigger outcry if they changed the draw.
    It's been given as OK by arbiters and two different Swiss pairing programs.

    She has just lost her third round game.

    Kramnik got beat by the 65 year American James Tarjan . This defeat
    has cost him 9 rating points and puts him way down in 3rd in the race for
    the two candidates rating spots between him, Caruana and Wes So.
  7. Subscribermoonbus
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    25 Sep '17 19:25
    Hey, I got beat by James Tarjan once, too.
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    For me it is interesting to watch the following:
    Zuniga Granda
    Short
    Timman

    Anand
    Gelfand.

    It is an extraordinary opportunity to see some "only" open tournaments player, like Zuniga Granda against still WC contenders as Kramnik and Nakamura (and even Champion himself).

    And amongst them there are washed out dinosaurs, or better say walking dead - Short, Timman, Anand and Gelfand.

    If they gave the wild card to Tarjan, they could have given it ti Romanishin, too.

    There is one player missing, though, one of open tour sharks - namely Tkatchiev.
  9. Subscribermlb62
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    25 Sep '17 22:45
    Originally posted by @vandervelde
    For me it is interesting to watch the following:
    Zuniga Granda
    Short
    Timman

    Anand
    Gelfand.

    It is an extraordinary opportunity to see some "only" open tournaments player, like Zuniga Granda against still WC contenders as Kramnik and Nakamura (and even Champion himself).

    And amongst them there are washed out dinosaurs, or better say walking d ...[text shortened]... ishin, too.

    There is one player missing, though, one of open tour sharks - namely Tkatchiev.
    lol your comments are very funny and correct..but...I wouldn't put Anand with the other three just yet..
  10. e4
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    25 Sep '17 22:54
    Yifan's 4th female in a row is again sound.

    Here are the 32 players currently on 1½ pts. plus their grade which gives them their seed order.

    1. Hou Yifan 2670
    2. Akobian Varuzhan 2662
    3. Tregubov Pavel V. 2589
    4. Ju Wenjun 2574
    5, Aravindh Chithambaram Vr. 2573
    6. Wagner Dennis 2564
    7. Vishnu Prasanna. V 2543
    8. Perelshteyn Eugene 2524
    9. Lubbe Nikolas 2515
    1O. lafsson Helgi 2512
    11. Praggnanandhaa R 2500
    12. Brown Michael William 2499
    13. Hambleton Aman 2479
    14. Salomon Johan 2476
    15. Basso Pier Luigi 2460
    16. Paehtz Elisabeth 2453


    The halfway cut. The players due White in the top group will play in seed order players from the 2nd group due Black.

    17. Swayams Mishra 2444
    18. Shvayger Yuliya 2442
    19. Sundararajan Kidambi 2426
    20. Arkell Keith C 2415
    21. Wallace John Paul 2413
    22. Arjun Kalyan 2406
    23. Roberson Peter T 2403
    24. Karavade Eesha 2384
    25. Woellermann Jan 2384
    26. Ledger Andrew J 2361
    27. Hemant Sharma 2342
    28. Ragnarsson Dagur 2340
    29. Kolbus Dietmar 2320
    30. Ojas Kulkarni 2289
    31. IM Rudolf Anna 2286
    32. Harari Zaki 2027

    But...The tournament need the highest rated player on 1½ pts. due Black to up float and play someone on 2 pts.

    Yifan is due a white and so was Akobian so upfloated was Tregubov and now those
    on 1½ need a player from those on 1 point due a Black. The highest rated player due a
    Black from the group on 1pt. was Yankelevich Lev.

    Revised list.

    1. Hou Yifan 2670
    2. Akobian Varuzhan 2662
    3. Ju Wenjun 2574
    4. Aravindh Chithambaram Vr. 2573
    5. Wagner Dennis 2564
    6. Vishnu Prasanna. V 2543
    7. Perelshteyn Eugene 2524
    8. Lubbe Nikolas 2515
    9. lafsson Helgi 2512
    10. Praggnanandhaa R 2500
    11. Brown Michael William 2499
    12. Hambleton Aman 2479
    13. Salomon Johan 2476
    14. Basso Pier Luigi 2460
    15. Paehtz Elisabeth 2453
    16. Swayams Mishra 2444

    The halfway cut. This is group 2

    17. Shvayger Yuliya 2442
    18. Sundararajan Kidambi 2426
    19. Arkell Keith C 2415
    20. Wallace John Paul 2413
    21. Arjun Kalyan 2406
    22. Roberson Peter T 2403
    23. Karavade Eesha 2384
    24. Woellermann Jan 2384
    25. Ledger Andrew J 2361
    26. Hemant Sharma 2342
    27. Ragnarsson Dagur 2340
    28. Kolbus Dietmar 2320
    29. Ojas Kulkarni 2289
    30. IM Rudolf Anna 2286
    31. Harari Zaki 2027
    32. Yankelevich Lev 2443 (remember Lev has only 1pt.)

    The highest rated player (Yifan) due White v the highest rated due Black in group 2. Shvayger Yuliya.

    Now if an idiot like me can understand this you lot should have no trouble at all
  11. New Braunfels, Texas
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    26 Sep '17 01:06
    Originally posted by @greenpawn34

    ...But...The tournament need the highest rated player on 1½ pts. due Black to up float and play someone on 2 pts.


    Now if an idiot like me can understand this you lot should have no trouble at all...
    Well I failed Calculus II at the University, so i will take your word on this. 😛
  12. Subscribermoonbus
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    30 Sep '17 23:49
    Here is the game from round 3, Tarjan v Kramnik. Tarjan goes into a pawn-endgame with 2 bishops against a rook. Nice work for an old-timer.

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    Very sad and indicative how opet-tour-shark Zuniga Granda lost from WC Carlsen under 30 moves.
    Granda gave up his off-variations from te first ages of Openings-books, and tried regular Petroff game and was crashed without visible track of mistake.
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    03 Oct '17 12:091 edit
    Originally posted by @greenpawn34
    Yifan's 4th female in a row is again sound.
    The odds are greater for a male to play a female player in four consecutive rounds, but has that ever happened?
  15. e4
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    04 Oct '17 06:42
    After the hoo-ha at Gibraltar Yifan's draw was checked and double-checked (A chess pun!)

    Players at the Isle of Man could ask for a bye in between rounds 1-8
    and receive ½ a point. A few players took this opportunity for a day off.

    Yifan tweeted.

    Hou Yifan: "The pairings in the first half of #IoMchess made me a little bit....well, upset. So I decided to take a bye"

    Very strong speculation that this was a wee joke on her part. because
    she lodged no protest, the draw was sound and easily explained
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