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Originally posted by smw6869Yes. You got it.
So, i x i = -1 ?
Now it all makes sense!
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Originally posted by adam warlockNo-the Quaternian was created before vectors, and were used to do what vectors do, just less well.
Are you talking about this?: [b]the vector form of a quaternion may also be used. This form assumes that \vec{A} \equiv A_x\mathbf i + A_y\mathbf j + A_z\mathbf k. in that case the i,j,k are a notation to indicate the three coordinate axes and to explain how quaternions can be represented in that way. But don't you confuse a representation of an ob ...[text shortened]... you read the informal introduction, and bare in mind the word informal, you can see that.[/b]
Originally posted by FabianFnasI was thinking about that no complex number being greater than another concept, are you talking about the fact that the complex number line isn't really a line but just another set of numbers tacked on to the number line and there is only that one place, so the complex number point is just that, a point and not a real number line that happens to lie at 90 degrees away?
[b]But if you have say, 2+3i v 4+3i, why isn't the second value larger?
or 2 + 3i vi 2 + 4i, why isn't the second example larger?
Which one is larger? 4+3i or 3+4i? Or this one: 1 or i? In fact, there is no ordering property among the complex numbers. Only equal or non equal.
... could there be further second generation complexities at 90 d ...[text shortened]... y the matematicians because there is other ways to solve those problems with standard methods.
Originally posted by sonhouseThis interpretation is not correct for the use of complex numbers in electronics. Complex numbers are used in electronics purely as a mathematical simplification, to eliminate the need for more difficult calculations involving the sine and cosine functions.
THAT I know: Complex numbers are inherently involved with alternating current and RF, you have to use complex #'s to solve problems in current flow and voltages, say on an RF open wire feedline for instance, the current sine wave and the voltage sin waves are not in sync and require complex #'s to solve the real energy exchange, absorption or emission of RF ...[text shortened]... ameters into Mathcad or other software pacs and don't have to do the math by hand any more.
Originally posted by mtthwBut then again (putting my ignorance on display for all to admire) isn't that just another equation describing sine/cosine wave behavior? I would expect then, that the use of complex numbers is once again just a mathematical nicety.
i actually appears in Schrödinger's equation, suggesting it's pretty fundamental in QM.
Originally posted by leisurelyslothIt depends on the potential. For some potentials solutions to the schrodinger are standing waves, sines and cosines, but for other potentials we can have more crazy stuff happening.
But then again (putting my ignorance on display for all to admire) isn't that just another equation describing sine/cosine wave behavior?
Originally posted by adam warlockinteresting....
It depends on the potential. For some potentials solutions to the schrodinger are standing waves, sines and cosines, but for other potentials we can have more crazy stuff happening.
In quantum mechanics dynamical quantities are represented by operators and the momentum operator (in the coordinate representation) comes with a i on it. Just like that wit ...[text shortened]... u can get this book and just read this part I advice you to do it cause it is very instructive.