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    19 Dec '17 20:11
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Btw what school are we talking about in this thread?
    Why does it matter?
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    19 Dec '17 20:35
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Everyone's education can be improved with extra money.
    False. There is a finite amount of money that you can give to someone's education before any more money given will cease to measurably improve his education.
    So what is wrong with giving extra to only those that need extra?
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    19 Dec '17 20:45
    Originally posted by @humy
    False. There is a finite amount of money that you can give to someone's education before any more money given will cease to measurably improve his education.
    So what is wrong with giving extra to only those that need extra?
    Do you think we are spending sp much on education now that we have reached that point?
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    19 Dec '17 20:52
    Originally posted by @rank-outsider
    Why does it matter?
    So we can know what we are discussing and possibly see for ourselves the criteria.
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    19 Dec '17 20:531 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Do you think we are spending sp much on education now that we have reached that point?
    do you mean "special" by "sp"?
    Many people have as much money spent on their education as to not measurably benefit from having even more money spent on it.
    The amount a person learns isn't a simple linear function of how much money is spent on his education else you could make any half-wit understand the whole of relativity just by spending millions on his education.
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    19 Dec '17 21:191 edit
    Originally posted by @humy
    do you mean "special" by "sp"?
    Many people have as much money spent on their education as to not measurably benefit from having even more money spent on it.
    The amount a person learns isn't a simple linear function of how much money is spent on his education else you could make any half-wit understand the whole of relativity just by spending millions on his education.
    I am typing on a phone. Sp was an attempt to type so.

    O and p are next to each other.

    You are talking out of your butt when it comes to spending.

    Almost all kids could benefit from one on one private tutoring.
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    20 Dec '17 06:531 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar


    Almost all kids could benefit from one on one private tutoring.
    Most kids couldn't benefit from Braille. So, if you were put in charge of funding, you would deny Braille to the few that can benefit because the others cannot benefit and your 'logic' is that no more money should be spent on one kid than the other?
    So, if you had it your way, how would you expect a blind kid to learn at school without Braille? Exactly what is a poor blind kid supposed to do to become educated if you are the one put in charge of funding?
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    20 Dec '17 09:39
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Why should extra resources be denied others?
    So what do you think of Vygotsky's and Bruner's ideas on "scaffolding"?
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    20 Dec '17 10:37
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    So what do you think of Vygotsky's and Bruner's ideas on "scaffolding"?
    I just looked it up and read it at

    https://www.teachthought.com/learning/learning-theories-jerome-bruner-scaffolding-learning/

    Most of it looks pretty much like just common sense to me.
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    20 Dec '17 16:24
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    So what do you think of Vygotsky's and Bruner's ideas on "scaffolding"?
    If you are just talking about scaffolding, it is what teachers do. It is nothing more that teaching kids to ride a bike with training wheels.

    I am not sure how that fits with choosing to spend 10s of thousands of dollars on a few.
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    20 Dec '17 22:18
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Every child deserves equal money spent on his or her education.

    Special people should not get special privilege.

    Picking who should get extra resources is by definition discrimination.
    So if it cost more money to bring in teachers specializing in braille, they should not be hired, otherwise it would be disciminatory....
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    20 Dec '17 23:41
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    So if it cost more money to bring in teachers specializing in braille, they should not be hired, otherwise it would be disciminatory....
    Are you as dense as the others? It isn't specialized braille readinding teachers but the additiinal aids that go around with these kids.

    When special needs kids get mainstreamed many times adult aids travel with them.

    It isn't just blind kids. It is a bunch of kids being thrown into classes for which they are not prepared in the name of socialization.

    These kids do not achieve academically and many times are disruptive. At least that is how it works in the US.
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    21 Dec '17 10:10
    Originally posted by @eladar
    If you are just talking about scaffolding, it is what teachers do. It is nothing more that teaching kids to ride a bike with training wheels.

    I am not sure how that fits with choosing to spend 10s of thousands of dollars on a few.
    Different kids need different training wheels.
    They don't all cost the same.
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    21 Dec '17 14:191 edit
    Originally posted by @eladar
    Are you as dense as the others? .
    he isn't one of the few dense ones here therefore he is smarter than you.
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    21 Dec '17 20:35
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Different kids need different training wheels.
    They don't all cost the same.
    Exactly what result are you looking for?
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