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Absolute Certainty

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
That said, i'm absolutely certain you're a pilchard.

(Does that qualify as an ad hominem attack, or is it merely a statement of absolute truth?)
neither, its a reflection of you and nothing more. In order for it to be an ad hominem it would need to form part of an argument, for example,

You are talking pants because you are a pilchard. I may be talking pants but is has little to do with my pilchardness and being a pilchard has little relevance to the efficacy of my talking pants.

Its also cannot be a statement of absolute truth because I am human whereas a pilchard is a fish plus the fact my being pure awesome would negate the statement.


Originally posted by robbie carrobie
neither, its a reflection of you and nothing more. In order for it to be an ad hominem it would need to form part of an argument, for example,

You are talking pants because you are a pilchard. I may be talking pants but is has little to do with my pilchardness and being a pilchard has little relevance to the efficacy of my talking pants.

Its ...[text shortened]... man whereas a pilchard is a fish plus the fact my being pure awesome would negate the statement.
You certainly like to talk about pilchards...


Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
You certainly like to talk about pilchards...
Ill talk about most things that do not offend my moral sensitivities 😀


Originally posted by C Hess
Yes, uhm, you don't suppose them theists might think we're the ones suffering from cd, do you? 😕
Not if they know what the term means, no.


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It is a bit more than a premise, it is borne out by statistics. Although I guess one could argue that there are other reasons for the correlation.

Can you give me an example of something particular in the science or cosmological dimension that you know, that I possibly don't know, that would contribute to me potentially discarding my acceptance of the possibility of a deity?
Its difficult to say without knowing what you know or don't know. And, no, you can't change to 'deity' in the middle of the thread when it suits you. We are talking about a theistic God similar to the Christian or Muslim God, not any random deity.
Any of these should give you serious doubts about a the standard theistic personal God:
1. An understanding of the scientific method and general principles of science.
2. An understanding of physics - especially as it applies to astronomy / cosmology.
3. A good understanding of evolution, the diversity of life and biology.
4. An understanding of the human brain and how it works.

Its hard to pick any one fact because it is a good understanding of the whole that would lead you to the realisation that there is no bearded fellow in the sky meddling with things.


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You tryin' to start something here, bub? Huh?

Sorry, not playing along.


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Who else could have created the heavens and the earth and programmed the DNA in all animals and could be responsible for all the miracles in nature?


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Actually, no, I do not know that your view of your God is nothing like that whatsoever. Besides, we are not talking about your view of your God, but all views of theistic Gods.
And yes, you are way too combatative and for some reason always blame me. What is more, you always use it as an excuse to call off uncomfortable conversations.

You seem quite happy to carry on endless combative arguments with Robbie, or RJ or any number of other Christians but the moment your beliefs are called into question by me, you call it off.

And in addition, nobody asked you to give a rats ass about my view of the cosmos. You asked me why I am absolutely certain that no theistic God exists and I answered as truthfully and honestly as I could. If you are uninterested in the answer then thats your look out. I suspect however that you are just uncomfortable with the answer and do not wish to discuss it further just as Robbie does not wish to pick up a science book.


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You're trying to start a fight, is what you're doing.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
Who else could have created the heavens and the earth and programmed the DNA in all animals and could be responsible for all the miracles in nature?
That's not what he's asking.

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