Originally posted by yousers
Since when is eating selflessly done for the benefit of others? Fixing your hair in the mirror, watching television, taking the closest parking spot, and self defense are evil as well.
Assasinating a leader to avoid war, and therefore more deaths, is good. Killing someone with leopracy to avoid spreading it to others is good. Stealing a truckload from a ...[text shortened]... good at first, but they are far from complete. A topic like this is simply not black and white.
Quite frankly, I would argue that assassinating a world leader who was going to cause a war, and thereby avoiding such, certainly is an act of good, and I'm far from alone in that beliefe...look at any history book.
Killing those with leprosy would not qualify, since the disease is not very contagious at all; though if you were misguided enough to believe you were acting to help others, then I would argue that your actions were good.
Stealing to feed the poor, while also misguided, is far from evil. How many consider the fairy tale version of Robin Hood to be evil?
As for you examples of evil, I would say that fixing one's hair or otherwise spending too much time on one's appearance is on the evil side of neutrality...though not always done for oneself entirely. I would say leaving closer parking spots as an act of courtesy would be a genuinely Good action, and hogging the best spots would indeed be treading the waters of evil. Self defense? Just like eating, if we allow ourselves to expire, then we are unable to continue helping others. So long as our goal is to indeed help others, then these actions are Good. Otherwise, they are neutral if not evil.
I think the difficulty here is that you're placing everything into one category or the other: good or evil. While I have offered a possible definition (the definition I try to live by) of good and evil, I do not believe every action is either good or evil. An act can be neither selfish nor selfless....and therefore, that act is neither good nor evil. It may be able to be said which side it is closer to, however, without being able to say it is completely on that side.
The point I was attempting to make is that we do not need God or the Bible to determine good and evil. I have heard people say over and over again that morality cannot exist without religion...and I simply do not agree with that statement. I have met many moral individuals who do not believe in God or souls or an afterlife, and their morals were not based on the leavings of religion, but on their own personal code of ethics based in sound reasoning. It isn't hard to figure out what is good for humanity and what is not; it is part of the social contract we are participate in. That is stronger than any religion.