1. Cape Town
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    20 Apr '12 14:48
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    You're both wrong and the answer is either neither or both.
    I am not sure what you mean by that, care to expand on it?
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    20 Apr '12 14:52
    According to Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken
    The chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus) is a domesticated fowl


    Where there domesticated fowl in the garden of Eden? Are they mentioned in the Bible?

    Next the creationists will be telling us that God made sausage dogs and poodles in Eden too!
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    20 Apr '12 15:09
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    According to Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken
    The chicken (Gallus gallus domesticus) is a domesticated fowl


    Where there domesticated fowl in the garden of Eden? Are they mentioned in the Bible?

    Next the creationists will be telling us that God made sausage dogs and poodles in Eden too!
    which came first the egg or the animal - don't make it about the chicken!
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    20 Apr '12 15:15
    Originally posted by tim88
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    Well it's not the strongest source I will readily admit but:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/4588289/The-Vatican-claims-Darwins-theory-of-evolution-is-compatible-with-Christianity.html

    The Vatican has admitted that Charles Darwin's theory of evolution should not have been dismissed and claimed it is compatible with the Christian view of Creation.

    --- Penguin
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    20 Apr '12 15:17
    Originally posted by tim88
    which came first the egg or the animal - don't make it about the chicken!
    No, it was always about the chicken:

    "A Sri Lanka hen has given birth to a chick without an egg, in a new twist on the age-old question of whether the chicken or the egg came first."

    It is you who is moving the goalposts.

    Penguin.
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    20 Apr '12 15:19
    Originally posted by tim88
    which came first the egg or the animal - don't make it about the chicken!
    * THREAD HIJACK ALERT *
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    20 Apr '12 15:252 edits
    This game has finished egg wins resignation
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    20 Apr '12 18:17
    Originally posted by FMF
    "A Sri Lanka hen has given birth to a chick without an egg, in a new twist on the age-old question of whether the chicken or the egg came first."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/17769677

    What are the "spiritual" ramifications of this?
    It's evolution in action! A bird giving live birth!
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    20 Apr '12 18:19
    Originally posted by tim88
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    Catholics believe in evolution.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_and_the_Roman_Catholic_Church
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    20 Apr '12 18:20
    Originally posted by tim88
    which came first the egg or the duck!
    Eggs. Every organism in the world that has males and females has eggs.
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    20 Apr '12 19:022 edits
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Eggs. Every organism in the world that has males and females has eggs.
    Not all organisms reproduce sexually and of those that do, not all use eggs. I wouldn't even call the equivalent part in a plant an 'egg'.
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    20 Apr '12 19:06
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    It's evolution in action! A bird giving live birth!
    Might be a non starter if the 'live chick layers' keep getting their guts ripped out during the birthing process, but I get your point if it was not for that disadvantage it could have been the beginning of a very successful mutation.
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    20 Apr '12 19:48
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Not all organisms reproduce sexually and of those that do, not all use eggs. I wouldn't even call the equivalent part in a plant an 'egg'.
    The equivalent part in plants is formally called an egg in biology. To be specific, an egg is a female gamete in any sexual organism.

    E.g.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovules
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    20 Apr '12 19:49
    Originally posted by kevcvs57
    Might be a non starter if the 'live chick layers' keep getting their guts ripped out during the birthing process, but I get your point if it was not for that disadvantage it could have been the beginning of a very successful mutation.
    You never know. Maybe the chick can feed on it's mother's corpse!
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    20 Apr '12 19:53
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    The equivalent part in plants is formally called an egg in biology. To be specific, an egg is a female gamete in any sexual organism.
    I stand corrected. Does this include single cellular life?
    However, I still maintain that some life forms do not reproduce sexually and therefore do not have eggs.
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