13 Apr '18 12:17>2 edits
Notice that both ThinkOfOne and Rajk999 have a strong negative reaction to the matter of Christ redeeming sinners with His blood.
Both find other passages to insist that they negate the redeeming blood of Christ. In other words they use those passages to FIGHT against the others.
You cannot follow them and their way unless you render as NONSENSE the clear passages about the washing of robes (symbolic) in the blood of the Redeemer - the Lamb - the Godman Jesus.
For example to follow ToO and Rajk999 you must accept cleansing but NOT redemption.
Notice that BECAUSE they are washed in the blood, therefore they SERVE God.
I encourage you to believe BOTH truths - washing in the redeeming blood of the Redeemer Christ and other concepts of being washed - via the water of the word, obedient repentance.
There is no reason to reject one truth to believe the other.
My Father has stated BOTH and I trust Him that both are true and important.
Now one caveat about the above Revelation 7:14. I used to believe that this referred to "the great tribulation" as the last three and one half years of this age. A point came when I no longer took it to mean that.
Here to come out of the great tribulation must mean to come out of the entire world history of trial, tribulation, misfortune, and trouble from the fall of Adam and Eve.
This crowd represents the entire un-numberable human beings who have come out of the whole tribulation of world history.
That is how I take and teach Revelation 7:14,15. And for this the redeeming sacrifice of Christ on His cross, shedding His blood for forgiveness, is crucial to all of saints of God throughout earth's history.
Both find other passages to insist that they negate the redeeming blood of Christ. In other words they use those passages to FIGHT against the others.
You cannot follow them and their way unless you render as NONSENSE the clear passages about the washing of robes (symbolic) in the blood of the Redeemer - the Lamb - the Godman Jesus.
For example to follow ToO and Rajk999 you must accept cleansing but NOT redemption.
"These are those who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Because of this they are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in his temple; and He who sits upon the throne will tabernacle over them." (Revelation 7:14,15)
Notice that BECAUSE they are washed in the blood, therefore they SERVE God.
I encourage you to believe BOTH truths - washing in the redeeming blood of the Redeemer Christ and other concepts of being washed - via the water of the word, obedient repentance.
There is no reason to reject one truth to believe the other.
My Father has stated BOTH and I trust Him that both are true and important.
Now one caveat about the above Revelation 7:14. I used to believe that this referred to "the great tribulation" as the last three and one half years of this age. A point came when I no longer took it to mean that.
Here to come out of the great tribulation must mean to come out of the entire world history of trial, tribulation, misfortune, and trouble from the fall of Adam and Eve.
This crowd represents the entire un-numberable human beings who have come out of the whole tribulation of world history.
That is how I take and teach Revelation 7:14,15. And for this the redeeming sacrifice of Christ on His cross, shedding His blood for forgiveness, is crucial to all of saints of God throughout earth's history.