1. Standard memberDoctorScribbles
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    30 May '08 22:00
    Originally posted by josephw
    None of them will be going to heaven.

    Only those who have trusted in Christ will go to heaven.

    I hope this isn't too complicated!
    I see. So, newborns who die before reaching an age at which they have the epistemic capacity to trust in Christ do not go to heaven? Is it really as simple as you say?
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    30 May '08 22:00
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    And, of course, no member of these religions trusts in Christ.
    I think some Protestants do.
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    30 May '08 22:06
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    And, of course, no member of these religions trusts in Christ.
    How should I know?
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    30 May '08 22:07
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    I see. So, newborns who die before reaching an age at which they have the epistemic capacity to trust in Christ do not go to heaven? Is it really as simple as you say?
    God always receives children into heaven. What kind of a guy do you think He is?
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    30 May '08 22:10
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    I think some Protestants do.
    Josephw said that "None of them will be going to heaven." Presumably, that includes all Protestants.
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    30 May '08 22:122 edits
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    Josephw said that "None of them will be going to heaven." Presumably, that includes all Protestants.
    Apparently the population of Heaven will be predominantly comprised of miscarried embryos (more than 50% of these "die" after conception). Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about this "trusting in Christ" when the majority get a free pass.

    EDIT: Meant to reply to josephw's post.
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    30 May '08 22:18
    Originally posted by no1marauder
    Apparently the population of Heaven will be predominantly comprised of miscarried embryos (more than 50% of these "die" after conception). Makes you wonder what all the fuss is about this "trusting in Christ" when the majority get a free pass.

    EDIT: Meant to reply to josephw's post.
    So?
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    30 May '08 22:181 edit
    Originally posted by josephw
    God always receives children into heaven. What kind of a guy do you think He is?
    So, is your claim that "only those who have trusted in Christ will go to heaven" false? Haven't we just constructed a counterexample, since babies go to heaven without having trusted in Christ?
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    30 May '08 22:32
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    So, is your claim that "only those who have trusted in Christ will go to heaven" false? Haven't we just constructed a counterexample, since babies go to heaven without having trusted in Christ?
    Good point!

    I'll rephrase.

    Only those of the age of accountability who have trusted in Christ go to heaven, and those who die before the age of accountability go to heaven too.
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    30 May '08 22:35
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    So, is your claim that "only those who have trusted in Christ will go to heaven" false? Haven't we just constructed a counterexample, since babies go to heaven without having trusted in Christ?
    Perhaps "the lamb's book of life" has a special addenda section at the foot of each page to allow for the insertion of convenient dispensations whenever they become expedient.
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    30 May '08 22:36
    Originally posted by josephw
    Good point!

    I'll rephrase.

    Only those of the age of accountability who have trusted in Christ go to heaven, and those who die before the age of accountability go to heaven too.
    Well, this is getting quite complicated already.

    Would a person who once trusted in Christ and then stopped trusting in Christ go to heaven?
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    30 May '08 22:39
    Originally posted by josephw
    Good point!

    I'll rephrase.

    Only those of the age of accountability who have trusted in Christ go to heaven, and those who die before the age of accountability go to heaven too.
    can you tell us what age that is and quote the authority from whence this rule eminated?
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    30 May '08 23:37
    Originally posted by josephw
    Good point!

    I'll rephrase.

    Only those of the age of accountability who have trusted in Christ go to heaven, and those who die before the age of accountability go to heaven too.
    Some profoundly developmentally disabled folk reach the age of accountability without acquiring the necessary intellectual capacities to conceive of Christ, let alone trust in Christ. Do they also get to go to Heaven?
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    30 May '08 23:42
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    Well, this is getting quite complicated already.

    Would a person who once trusted in Christ and then stopped trusting in Christ go to heaven?
    Depends on who you talk to.
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    31 May '08 00:57
    Originally posted by josephw
    Depends on who you talk to.
    Uh...I think they're trying to talk to you.
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