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Originally posted by karoly aczelJesus was enlightened and could only enlighten 10 people....and the rest murdered him.
Only enlightened people can enlighten others.
Originally posted by vishvahetuVery courageous and admiring post, vishva =]
Let me add something...
The whole world is suffering, and that suffering is increased because of false teachings and false beliefs.
In this forum people hold onto false teachings as tightly as possibe, and not because they have truth, but because of their selfish materialistic personal agendas....this is called dishonesty, and i will not tolerate it ...[text shortened]... us people saying we have only one life and the soul is created at birth....all this is nonsense.
Originally posted by vishvahetuWhy would it imply that they are dishonest. Why can't they be deluded in your view?
Let me add something...
The whole world is suffering, and that suffering is increased because of false teachings and false beliefs.
In this forum people hold onto false teachings as tightly as possibe, and not because they have truth, but because of their selfish materialistic personal agendas....this is called dishonesty, and i will not tolerate it ...[text shortened]... us people saying we have only one life and the soul is created at birth....all this is nonsense.
Originally posted by vishvahetu“...The whole world is suffering, and that suffering is increased because of false teachings and false beliefs. ...”
Let me add something...
The whole world is suffering, and that suffering is increased because of false teachings and false beliefs.
In this forum people hold onto false teachings as tightly as possibe, and not because they have truth, but because of their selfish materialistic personal agendas....this is called dishonesty, and i will not tolerate it ...[text shortened]... us people saying we have only one life and the soul is created at birth....all this is nonsense.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou are a piece of work sometimes. Get a grip. I really dont think you are in the spirit of my post and I feel offended. But more than that, I fell ashamed for you.
oh touchy touchy, i did not realise, i am sorry, i shall leave you to find enlightenment in peace, sincerely sorry that is.
Originally posted by tacoandlettuceVishy-stop the negativity. It is getting you nowhere. I know you are just trying to tell the truth, but if we followed what you say literally, we should all just off oursleves- there is no way we could live up to your lofty standards, and if we did, we would all be drones.
Very courageous and admiring post, vishva =]
Originally posted by karoly aczelI can only comment from the level I find myself, and if one person a year decides to study Vedanta, then I am very happy, and I am not concerned for being popular, so I will tell the truth in all circumstances, and I am not concerned if someones false beliefs get trashed.
One Zen master enlightened 500 disciples. Another enlightened only one. I see no difference, They both did their jobs.
Originally posted by vishvahetuYou are entirely mistaken if you truly think that you can 'trash' someone's beliefs, false or otherwise, by rudely dismissing them. Furthermore I would guess that your unpleasant manner will make it less likely that people who read your posts will go on to study the scripture you purport to champion. Of course I realise that popularity is not your primary concern here, but how do you feel about the possibility that you are actually steering people away from what you believe to be the truth?
I can only comment from the level I find myself, and if one person a year decides to study Vedanta, then I am very happy, and I am not concerned for being popular, so I will tell the truth in all circumstances, and I am not concerned if someones false beliefs get trashed.
It is not my responsibility to enlighten anyone,.......it is the studying of Ved ...[text shortened]... anta principle of purification, that will give the person the enlightenment they seek. NOT ME
Originally posted by avalanchethecatFalse beliefs and false teachings are like a cancer that has to be cut out, and the cutting out process is painful, but after the cancer is removed the person is healthy again.
You are entirely mistaken if you truly think that you can 'trash' someone's beliefs, false or otherwise, by rudely dismissing them. Furthermore I would guess that your unpleasant manner will make it less likely that people who read your posts will go on to study the scripture you purport to champion. Of course I realise that popularity is not your ...[text shortened]... possibility that you are actually steering people away from what you believe to be the truth?
Originally posted by vishvahetuFACT
False beliefs and false teachings are like a cancer that has to be cut out, and the cutting out process is painful, but after the cancer is removed the person is healthy again.
My choice of words trash ( i could of used a better word) means that the cancer has no value, and after removal it is thrown in the trash.
The entire world is suffering due t ...[text shortened]... then their entire life is based on a false premise, which causes all the conflict in the world.
Originally posted by Andrew HamiltonPeople who are ignorant of the spiritual life, believe that a persons life must be saved at all cost.
“...The whole world is suffering, and that suffering is increased because of false teachings and false beliefs. ...”
Grant you that having delusional beliefs (which includes yours) doesn't help, but “suffering is increased BECAUSE of false teachings and false beliefs”? In another thread you were apparently dismissive of all science -even medical s ...[text shortened]... e INCREASE suffering? -I mean, it is clearly obvious that it generally does the exact opposite!