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Spirituality

  1. 05 Jun '18 14:17 / 1 edit
    Physics Class 3:9

    The Professor asked us students to define physics...

    Half the students get up from the class and run to the dean's office. demanding a new professor because clearly our professor knows nothing about physics - for crying out loud they asked us, the students, a question!!!

    Now, being perfectly objective about this professor, one must realise the professor knew nothing about physics, right?

    The ball is in your court, bigdogg.



    P.S. If anyone fails to the see the sarcasm/satire go to bigdogg's post about God not being omniscient.
  2. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    07 Jun '18 01:12
    Why a physics teacher?
  3. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    07 Jun '18 02:17
    Originally posted by @wolfgang59
    Why a physics teacher?
    The wheel spun and landed on that one, obviously.
  4. 07 Jun '18 03:55
    My undergrad was in physics - just a personal association.
  5. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    07 Jun '18 04:24
    Originally posted by @alphazero
    My undergrad was in physics - just a personal association.
    If God is as described in the bible, it must be assumed that His questions are rhetorical in nature.
  6. 07 Jun '18 04:40
    Agree 100%.

    My simple point was that the asking of a question does not mean we don't know the answer. Which is what you are saying.
  7. Standard member wolfgang59
    Infidel
    07 Jun '18 11:53
    Originally posted by @alphazero

    My simple point ...
    Agree 100%
  8. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    07 Jun '18 12:40
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    If God is as described in the bible, it must be assumed that His questions are rhetorical in nature.
    Why?
  9. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    07 Jun '18 14:35
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    Why?
    Seriously?

    Because God as described in the bible already knows the answers to any questions He would (rhetorically) ask.
  10. Standard member Ghost of a Duke
    Zen Master
    07 Jun '18 15:20
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Seriously?

    Because God as described in the bible [b]already knows
    the answers to any questions He would (rhetorically) ask.[/b]
    Out of curiosity then, why did God say to Abraham "now I know you fear God." Why wasn't he already aware of that before asking him to sacrifice his son? What was the point of that 'test'? (And as an aside, why is it important to God that people fear Him and love Him above all else, to such an extreme length? )

    P.S I'm aware of the 'usual' answers to these questions.
  11. 07 Jun '18 17:44
    Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
    Out of curiosity then, why did God say to Abraham "now I know you fear God." Why wasn't he already aware of that before asking him to sacrifice his son? What was the point of that 'test'? (And as an aside, why is it important to God that people fear Him and love Him above all else, to such an extreme length? )

    P.S I'm aware of the 'usual' answers to these questions.
    Psalm 19:9a
    The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever:

    "Why wasn't he already aware of that before asking him to sacrifice his son?"

    He was. What you're failing to see is the meaning of the entire narrative.

    Galatians 3:8
    And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

    The event of Abraham sacrificing his son was God showing Abraham a "type" of His own son's sacrifice. The story is heart wrenching if one understands what Abraham went through, as well as what God went through when He gave His Son.
  12. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    08 Jun '18 02:07
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    Seriously?

    Because God as described in the bible [b]already knows
    the answers to any questions He would (rhetorically) ask.[/b]
    But I am contesting that very claim. Your response is "begging the question".
  13. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    08 Jun '18 02:34 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    But I am contesting that very claim. Your response is "begging the question".
    I could inundate you with verses from the bible that declare God's omniscience but I'll give you enough credit to assume you already know the bible says it. That leaves your dispute to mean you contest the truth of the bible itself. If that's the case, then let's have a beer and talk about football, because an RHP forum discussion isn't going to fix that.
  14. Subscriber BigDoggProblem
    The Advanced Mind
    08 Jun '18 12:47
    Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
    I could inundate you with verses from the bible that declare God's omniscience but I'll give you enough credit to assume you already know the bible says it. That leaves your dispute to mean you contest the truth of the bible itself. If that's the case, then let's have a beer and talk about football, because an RHP forum discussion isn't going to fix that.
    There are verses which indicate a great power to foresee the future, and predict human behavior. Impressive though those insights may be, they do not get us all the way to Omniscience. That is a huge claim. Worse, in the Bible, there are hints here and there that maybe God did not know about certain things, but those are cavalierly dismissed by believers.
  15. 08 Jun '18 14:26 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    There are verses which indicate a great power to foresee the future, and predict human behavior. Impressive though those insights may be, they do not get us all the way to Omniscience. That is a huge claim. Worse, in the Bible, there are hints here and there that maybe God did not know about certain things, but those are cavalierly dismissed by believers.
    It's a pride thing. "My God is better than your God"

    Next thing you know they've painted themselves into an incoherent theological corner be it omniscience, omnipotence, omnibenevolence or any combination thereof.

    Of course none of them have the humility to admit it.